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A cure for slow drivers? The Left Lane Drivers want to sell you a sticker.

 
 
Setanta
 
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Reply Fri 12 Dec, 2008 07:16 pm
Babble on, Bill, you still have failed to coherently address anything that i have actually written.

No surprises there, logic has never been your strong suit.
OCCOM BILL
 
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Reply Fri 12 Dec, 2008 09:08 pm
@Setanta,
Setanta wrote:

Babble on, Bill, you still have failed to coherently address anything that i have actually written.

No surprises there, logic has never been your strong suit.
Laughing
Coherently address anything you've written? Like, what might that be? Laughing How can I now that you've backpedaled away from every topic relevant thing pretending you were kidding? Your one remaining point, that going faster doesn't get you there faster is too idiotic to require a rebuttal. Okay, here: Yes, it does. Laughing

Until recently; I was commuting 600 miles a week. the difference between 60 and 80 miles an hour on the 500 miles of that which was Interstate 43 saves a couple hours a week (not to be confused with nothing Laughing) But wait; there's more... It so happens that if I left the office at 4:30 and blazed home at 80 mph; I would beat the Rush hour going through Milwaukee, thereby saving an additional 30 minutes of driving time. Well, what do you know? Going faster saved lots of time... who would have thought? Rolling Eyes Well, I think your average first grader can do the math that seemingly escapes you Setanta. Perhaps you should stick to History… so you won't look like such an idiot.
gungasnake
 
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Reply Sat 13 Dec, 2008 09:57 am
@OCCOM BILL,
Quote:
It so happens that if I left the office at 4:30 and blazed home at 80 mph; I would beat the Rush hour going through Milwaukee, thereby saving an additional 30


Beating the rush hour in the D.C. region can save you two or three hours in a single day.....
Joeblow
 
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Reply Sat 13 Dec, 2008 10:42 am
@gungasnake,
Every minute on the highway counts during rush hour, here, too, but the answer for me isn't to race 40 kilometres over the speed limit, it's to hit the highway five minutes earlier.

If I'm on the highway by 7:00 a.m. I can be at work, in *light* traffic by 7:30ish. If I'm 5 minutes later, I might not get there until after 8:00.

ehBeth
 
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Reply Sat 13 Dec, 2008 10:52 am
@OCCOM BILL,
The studies (and there are a LOT of them out here in the transportation industry) are pretty clear - when you travel makes a lot more difference than your speed.

maporsche
 
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Reply Sat 13 Dec, 2008 12:07 pm
@ehBeth,
That much should be obvious.

You speed, in normal commuter traffic, makes almost no difference in your commute time (again, minutes).
OCCOM BILL
 
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Reply Sat 13 Dec, 2008 12:13 pm
@Joeblow,

Joeblow wrote:

Every minute on the highway counts during rush hour, here, too, but the answer for me isn't to race 40 kilometres over the speed limit, it's to hit the highway five minutes earlier.

If I'm on the highway by 7:00 a.m. I can be at work, in *light* traffic by 7:30ish. If I'm 5 minutes later, I might not get there until after 8:00.
Very similar situation here. Approximately every minute later heading into Milwaukee in the morning costs you 2 coming out. I used the after work example because not everyone has the option to leave work earlier out of preference. The bottom line in my real-world example is that speeding can save hundreds of hours per year. Time is money, and we're talking about an extra month's pay. Who couldn't use an extra month's pay?
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OCCOM BILL
 
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Reply Sat 13 Dec, 2008 12:14 pm
@ehBeth,
ehBeth wrote:

The studies (and there are a LOT of them out here in the transportation industry) are pretty clear - when you travel makes a lot more difference than your speed.
Absolutely. This is true in my real life example as well.
Although; it's really the same thing on the freeway. Congestion slows you down because it slows you down. By extension; going faster means you get there faster. I can't believe this was disputed in the first place. Laughing
maporsche
 
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Reply Sat 13 Dec, 2008 12:18 pm
@OCCOM BILL,
Bill, no one has said that it will get you there slower.

The 'dispute' is on whether or not the exponential increase in DEATH from accidents at higher speeds is worth the MINUTES you'll save on an average 15-20 mile commute.

I understand that you're a speeder, and I hope that you'll never get in an accident, but chances are you will, hopefully you love your family enough to realize that if you're going the speed limit when that accident occurs, as opposed to going 90mph you'll have a much greater chance of survival.

Is dying decades early (or causing someone else to die) worth that tiny amount of time?
OCCOM BILL
 
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Reply Sat 13 Dec, 2008 12:18 pm
@maporsche,
maporsche wrote:

That much should be obvious.

You speed, in normal commuter traffic, makes almost no difference in your commute time (again, minutes).
I can think of few things more idiotic than claiming that moving faster doesn't get you somewhere faster. Even Ten Minutes a day equates to an extra 40 hours at the end of the year. Could you use an extra week's pay?
maporsche
 
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Reply Sat 13 Dec, 2008 12:19 pm
@OCCOM BILL,
I NEVER made that claim you fool. READ what I've written.

And how would I be earning an extra weeks pay?
OCCOM BILL
 
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Reply Sat 13 Dec, 2008 12:25 pm
@maporsche,
maporsche wrote:

Bill, no one has said that it will get you there slower.

The 'dispute' is on whether or not the exponential increase in DEATH from accidents at higher speeds is worth the MINUTES you'll save on an average 15-20 mile commute.

I understand that you're a speeder, and I hope that you'll never get in an accident, but chances are you will, hopefully you love your family enough to realize that if you're going the speed limit when that accident occurs, as opposed to going 90mph you'll have a much greater chance of survival.

Is dying decades early (or causing someone else to die) worth that tiny amount of time?
Laughing Dude. Stop arguing and start thinking.
He who blocks the passing lane, leaving passing on the Right (where slower traffic belongs) as the only option to get around him; is a hell of a lot more likely to cause an accident than the guy who simply goes a little faster. He who simply drives faster where it’s safe is not much of a danger to you. He who is instrumental in creating unsafe driving conditions for everyone is, obviously, a greater danger to you.

STOP arguing and think... and this will become clear to you in no time.
OCCOM BILL
 
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Reply Sat 13 Dec, 2008 12:27 pm
@maporsche,
maporsche wrote:

I NEVER made that claim you fool. READ what I've written.

And how would I be earning an extra weeks pay?
By working instead of driving... hello. Laughing
maporsche
 
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Reply Sat 13 Dec, 2008 12:30 pm
@OCCOM BILL,
Please Bill, stop telling me to think when it's obvious that you're doing such a poor job of that on your own.

The person going the speed limit in the passing lane is not FORCING anyone to BREAK THE LAW or cause an unsafe condition. The speeder (in this case, you) are making that choice.
maporsche
 
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Reply Sat 13 Dec, 2008 12:31 pm
@OCCOM BILL,
Working where Bill? I have a job, if I get there 10 minutes early I leave 10 minutes early. I work the same number of hours. I'm not making any extra money.
maporsche
 
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Reply Sat 13 Dec, 2008 12:41 pm
@OCCOM BILL,
There is another option you're missing Bill, and honestly it's the safest one. Don't pass him. Stay behind him. Wait for the cop to enforce the law by pulling the guy over. Don't take it into your own hands and risk the lives of those around you.

YOU are making accidents more likely by weaving in and out.
YOU are making accidents more deadly by speeding.
YOU are being the self-important asshole if you truly do/feel these things.
OCCOM BILL
 
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Reply Sat 13 Dec, 2008 12:46 pm
@maporsche,
maporsche wrote:

Please Bill, stop telling me to think when it's obvious that you're doing such a poor job of that on your own.

The person going the speed limit in the passing lane is not FORCING anyone to BREAK THE LAW or cause an unsafe condition. The speeder (in this case, you) are making that choice.
Rolling Eyes That's not thinking. That's pure idiocy. The Setantamantics that the person clogging up the road doesn't force others to pass him doesn't change the equation that a percentage of otherwise safe drivers WILL pass on the Right if some selfish asshole is clogging up the passing lane. This is a simple matter of fact… and only an idiot would attempt to deny it with silly semantic nonsense.

OCCOM BILL
 
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Reply Sat 13 Dec, 2008 12:47 pm
@maporsche,
maporsche wrote:

Working where Bill? I have a job, if I get there 10 minutes early I leave 10 minutes early. I work the same number of hours. I'm not making any extra money.
Now you're too damn dumb to understand, Time is Money"? Really? Playing dumb is a sorry substitute for argument.
maporsche
 
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Reply Sat 13 Dec, 2008 12:50 pm
@OCCOM BILL,
I'm really going to try to not sling insults back at you Bill.

Time isn't money. As clever as that old maxim is Bill, WORKING makes money. Unless you're replacing that saved 10 minutes with a JOB you're not making anything extra.

And MOST people will be taking that extra 10 minutes and using it to watch TV.
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maporsche
 
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Reply Sat 13 Dec, 2008 12:52 pm
@OCCOM BILL,
YOU are making accidents more likely by weaving in and out.
YOU are making accidents more deadly by speeding.
YOU are being the self-important asshole if you truly do/feel these things.
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