Saudis ask permission to build mosque in Moscow, Russia demands a Christian church in Saudi Arabia

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The Saudis have recently asked permission to build a mosque in Moscow, a city where there are only four mosques and 2 million Muslims. The Russians, however, are saying they want, in return, an Orthodox church in Saudi Arabia.

As we all know, the Saudis have a habit of constructing mosques in dozens of world capitals while forbidding houses of worship for any religion whatsoever outside its Wahabist brand of Islam.

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Of course we all know the Saudis aren't about ready to let Bibles or other religious literature, let alone a church, anywhere near their homeland, but all the same, it's amusing to see the Russians give the Saudis a taste of their own medicine.

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Love it.

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@Robert Gentel,

Go Russia!!

Mind you, I don't know that this sort of thing, wonderfully ironic and clever as it is, is helpful.

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I wonder if any Saudis know what the word "chutzpa" means?

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Saudi Arabia is not as the article says , just an ordinary "homeland" for Muslims it's "holy land". This is why Saudi Arabia doesnt ask to build a Mosque at the Vatican City (Italy). I dont think Moscow is considered "holy land", therefore its not a fair exchange. You'll find thousands of Churches in every other Islamic country.

Furthermore, you wont find 2 million Christians in Saudi Arabia, so what use is an empty Church?

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@Zippo,

I doubt they want to build it in Mecca.

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@roger,

Well then, they the Russians should keep up to date:
Ask and you shall receive.

http://www.cathnews.com/article.aspx?aeid=6247

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@Zippo,

Interesting.

NOT building a mosque or a church won't stop people from mingling increasingly. It can only make it more contentious. I hope they build both. Why not.

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Христос, воскресся из мертвых, смертю смерть поправ.....

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@Robert Gentel,

The Saudis are funding Muslim fundamentalism all across the world. I know a local mosque where the preacher/imam/mullah was locked out of his mosque as he was campaigning to have a dialogue with Christians and Jews. The elders of his mosque who received funding from the Saudis effectively shut him out of his own mosque.

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@gungasnake,

gungasnake wrote:

Христос, воскресся из мертвых, смертю смерть поправ.....

what's that got to do with anything?

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@talk72000,

i know of a guy who stands on the Boston Commons and preaches Rapture ;-)

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@dagmaraka,

dagmaraka wrote:

gungasnake wrote:

Христос, воскресся из мертвых, смертю смерть поправ.....

what's that got to do with anything?

Аминь.

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@dagmaraka,

Probably should have just said something like Hurrah for Russia, good to hear there's somebody left in the Christian world with a little bit of self respect.

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@gungasnake,

well your quote was irrelevant to the rest of the thread...that's why i asked. and it's irrelevant to a "hurrah for Russia" sentiment as well or self respect.

so if you had a connection in mind, it wasn't obvious what that was.

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@dagmaraka,

Just the first part of the ordinary chant you hear in Orthodox churches (as opposed to "Hurray for Satan" or whatever you hear in slammite mosques); seemed appropriate to me at least as a statement of solidarity...

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@gungasnake,

Keep in mind that Russia has absolutely no dependence on Saudi oil. Self respect is cheap for them. Still, it's kind of poetic.

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@gungasnake,

gungasnake wrote:

Just the first part of the ordinary chant you hear in Orthodox churches (as opposed to "Hurray for Satan" or whatever you hear in slammite mosques); seemed appropriate to me at least as a statement of solidarity...

funny you say that. You are aware that it says "repay death with death", aren't you? peaceful ordinary chant indeed.

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@Zippo,

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Saudi Arabia is not as the article says , just an ordinary "homeland" for Muslims it's "holy land". This is why Saudi Arabia doesnt ask to build a Mosque at the Vatican City (Italy). I dont think Moscow is considered "holy land", therefore its not a fair exchange. You'll find thousands of Churches in every other Islamic country.

Furthermore, you wont find 2 million Christians in Saudi Arabia, so what use is an empty Church?

I understand your logic above; however, how come to Orthodox Jews, all of Israel is Holy Land (also), yet the place has some of the most holy sites of Christianity and Islam. Perhaps, this reflects Jewish largesse?

And, to reply to your last thought about what good is an empty church, it might be good for symbolism. You know, like a Menorah next to a Christmas tree in many office building lobbies.

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@dagmaraka,

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You are aware that it says "repay death with death"...

That isn't how I'd translate it; more like made an end to death or brought death to death or some such.

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