cjhsa
 
Reply Wed 15 Oct, 2008 07:57 am
Because the MSM will do anything to downplay success in Iraq.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081015/ap_on_re_mi_ea/ml_iraq
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Intrepid
 
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Reply Wed 15 Oct, 2008 07:59 am
@cjhsa,
It must be big enough. Even you found it.
cjhsa
 
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Reply Wed 15 Oct, 2008 08:05 am
@Intrepid,
Can you tell it's an election year? The leftwingnuts have their lameinsultgenerator in full operation.
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FreeDuck
 
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Reply Wed 15 Oct, 2008 08:25 am
@cjhsa,
Because this is like the 5th time they've killed Al Qaida's number two?
cjhsa
 
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Reply Wed 15 Oct, 2008 09:29 am
@FreeDuck,
FreeDuck wrote:

Because this is like the 5th time they've killed Al Qaida's number two?


So?
Foxfyre
 
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Reply Wed 15 Oct, 2008 09:44 am
#2 doesn't go away just because it is removed. #3 then moves up into #2 yanno. CJ is correct that the MSM is giving this little play. It was featured on Fox News several newscasts in a row when it was current. But it wasn't mentioned on CNN or MSNBC during the time when I checked in there.

Media bias? Almost always. And it will be blatant until at least after the election.
ehBeth
 
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Reply Wed 15 Oct, 2008 09:49 am
@Foxfyre,
660 hits on google.ca/news
NYT/CBS etc
they've all got it
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Wed 15 Oct, 2008 09:52 am
@Foxfyre,
Foxfyre wrote:
It was featured on Fox News several newscasts in a row when it was current. But it wasn't mentioned on CNN or MSNBC during the time when I checked in there.

Media bias? Almost always. And it will be blatant until at least after the election.



AP, BBC, reuters, dpa, afp, CNN et. al. reported it three hours ago ... minutes after it was published as Press Release A081015a-001 by MFN-Iraq.
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Foxfyre
 
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Reply Wed 15 Oct, 2008 09:55 am
@ehBeth,
Oh I'm sure they did report it. But when? Featured on the front page or in the primary newscast? Or more obscurely like on Page 9 below the fold or mentioned in passing in a low rated time slot? And then too I might have just missed it too.

Yesterday most of the MSM was really downplaying the economy--like they sure don't want to report anything encouraging like a record good day on Wallstreet--not until the election is over. And sure enough the market is tanking again today and that is getting a LOT of play.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Wed 15 Oct, 2008 10:12 am
@Foxfyre,
Foxfyre wrote:

Oh I'm sure they did report it. But when? Featured on the front page or in the primary newscast? Or more obscurely like on Page 9 below the fold or mentioned in passing in a low rated time slot? And then too I might have just missed it too.


Well, according to the MFN-Forces press release it happened on October 5 - and the idenfication was comfirmed today (Wednesday, October 15 (the time in Iran is UTC/GMT +3 hours).

I really wonder if this news could have made it (technically spoken) even in the late editions of today's papers.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Wed 15 Oct, 2008 10:32 am
@Walter Hinteler,
The original press release came out as A081008a-342 on October 8, 2008.

Abu Qaswarah was mentioned in that press release as a "suspected AQI foreign terrorist facilitator". (That was mention e.g. in the WaPo, October 9 print edition, on page A14/A16 [first/third page of "World"]. I admit, it didn't get much attraction within a report headlines "Suicide Bomber Kills 10 In Iraq’s Diyala Province" - but the official press release mentioned it as one among several other incidents as well.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Wed 15 Oct, 2008 11:15 am
@Foxfyre,
Foxfyre wrote:

It was featured on Fox News several newscasts in a row when it was current. But it wasn't mentioned on CNN or MSNBC during the time when I checked in there.


That news was first mentioned at
- Fox News Channel 13:31 UTC/GMT

compared to some of those who reported before (all times UTC/GMT):
- Voice of America News - Mideast 13:20
- WTVR CBS 6, Virginia 13:04
- Reuters Africa 13:02
- CNN 12:57
- The Washington Post 12:53
- Toronto Sun 12:49
- Mail & Guardian Online 12:44
- BBC - News Front Page 12:42
- The Wall Street Journal 12:38
- Tennessean.com - Growth & Development 12:34
- The Age 12:30
- YnetNews 12:29
- and a few more (mentioned only media with news in English).

The Washington Times, btw, didn't have it before 14:20 ... as "World" news.
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FreeDuck
 
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Reply Wed 15 Oct, 2008 01:54 pm
@cjhsa,
Exactly.
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Merry Andrew
 
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Reply Wed 15 Oct, 2008 02:32 pm
@Foxfyre,
Where do you get your news, Foxy? Exclusively on Fox? MSM didn't report the huge Wall Street surge yesterday??? It was the top story on all the NPR evening broadcasts and made page 1 in the Boston Globe (a fairly liberal paper) as the lead story.
Merry Andrew
 
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Reply Wed 15 Oct, 2008 03:05 pm
@Merry Andrew,
By a strange coincidence, as I finished typing the above, the item being broadcast on NPR's "All Things Considered" was an account of the shootout in Iraq which netted AlQaeda's #2.
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InfraBlue
 
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Reply Wed 15 Oct, 2008 09:16 pm
I heard it on NPR this morning on Morning Edition.
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JTT
 
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Reply Wed 15 Oct, 2008 09:25 pm
@Foxfyre,
Quote:
Foxy wrote, below the fold:

"And then too I might have just missed it too."


"might". Laughing
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Thu 16 Oct, 2008 03:45 am
@Foxfyre,
Foxfyre wrote:

Oh I'm sure they did report it. But when? Featured on the front page or in the primary newscast? Or more obscurely like on Page 9 below the fold or mentioned in passing in a low rated time slot? And then too I might have just missed it too.


I truly believe that it was technically impossible for the media to print this news before today.

And indeed: it's in all of today's papers.

But Foxfyre is correct: it's not on the frontpage, (mostly) even not on page 9.

Take the Washington Post, for instance: page 14, though a rather long report:

http://i37.tinypic.com/20pq1yo.jpg

And I agree again with Foxfyre: some papers don't want to report this encoring report.
For example, the other Washington paper, the Washington Times, reports about this good news on page 15, with only two smallish paragraphs within a report about unfortunate future possibilties for the U.S. military in Iraq:

http://i38.tinypic.com/15zqeet.jpg



(And you were dead wrong with your ...
Quote:
And sure enough the market is tanking again today

... as well.)
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Thu 16 Oct, 2008 05:58 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Your local paper (Albuquerque Journal) has today's print edition just about 1/3 of a page (page A6) news "Around the nation" and on the same page four short news "From around the world".

But the questioned report is one of those, even with a photo (Rear Admiral Driscoll announcing the news of the capture yesterday):

http://i34.tinypic.com/2nbr4tx.jpg
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