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Lipstick on a Pig

 
 
H2O MAN
 
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Reply Wed 10 Sep, 2008 11:45 am
@Bi-Polar Bear,
Let's hope Obama's comments had no alternate meaning and that the whole issue just fades away.

On the other hand, this is politics.

Obama willingly gave his competition something they could not go out and buy - a golden nugget on tape.

Trust me, Obama's people are now working overtime to find and use any golden nugget McCain & Palin lay right up to the finish line.
They will most certainly use it to their advantage if the opportunity arises. It's American politics.
McGentrix
 
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Reply Wed 10 Sep, 2008 11:48 am
@H2O MAN,
It plays well to the liberal fans of Obama.
firefly
 
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Reply Wed 10 Sep, 2008 04:56 pm
@McGentrix,
John McCain has used the exact same expression when referring to a position of Hillary Clinton's last fall, and then again this spring. Clinton did not carry on and demand an apology.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMPYkNQlJMM

Obama was clearly not referring to Palin with his remarks.

"Putting lipstick on a pig" is a common term in Washington, referring to putting spin on something.

McCain’s former press secretary, Torie Clarke, also wrote a book called “Lipstick on a Pig".

This is all phony outrage on the part of the McCain camp. It's a distraction from the substance of what Obama was saying about McCain. The Republicans create a phony uproar, demand an apology, and throw this sort of bone to the media, and the media stupidly runs with it and spends an entire day talking about it.

The Republicans are now engaged in the politics of stupidity.

http://blog.newsweek.com/blogs/stumper/archive/2008/09/10/the-politics-of-stupidity.aspx

You can listen to what Obama actually said at the above link.

Sorry, Sarah Palin does not own exclusive rights to the word "lipstick", and everyone who uses the term "lipstick on a pig" is not referring to her. The phrase has been around a long time--McCain often uses it.
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engineer
 
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Reply Wed 10 Sep, 2008 07:22 pm
@H2O MAN,
I'm confused by all the hoopla. The phrase "You can put lipstick on a pig, but it's still a pig" is a common saying. Why does it suddenly apply to Palin?
DontTreadOnMe
 
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Reply Wed 10 Sep, 2008 07:28 pm
@engineer,
engineer wrote:

I'm confused by all the hoopla. The phrase "You can put lipstick on a pig, but it's still a pig" is a common saying. Why does it suddenly apply to Palin?


cause rove told rick davis to say that it did.
gungasnake
 
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Reply Thu 11 Sep, 2008 01:50 am
Given Oinkbama's choice for veep, I don't see where he has room to be talking about Sarah Palin being a pig or any such...

I say again, if the guy was just looking for an old bum for veep, this is the guy he wanted:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8L-ZZSc8JU
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H2O MAN
 
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Reply Thu 11 Sep, 2008 05:58 am
@engineer,
engineer wrote:

I'm confused by all the hoopla. The phrase "You can put lipstick on a pig, but it's still a pig" is a common saying. Why does it suddenly apply to Palin?

Because she used the word "lipstick" in her acceptance speech.
ebrown p
 
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Reply Thu 11 Sep, 2008 06:11 am
@H2O MAN,
H2O Man,

What other common phrases and word are we now prohibited from using?

((I never saw conservatives so interested in making sure everyone is politically correct))
LionTamerX
 
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Reply Thu 11 Sep, 2008 06:12 am
@DontTreadOnMe,
Quote:
engineer wrote:


I'm confused by all the hoopla. The phrase "You can put lipstick on a pig, but it's still a pig" is a common saying. Why does it suddenly apply to Palin?



cause rove told rick davis to say that it did.


Exactly. The McPalin camp is so lacking in substance that they will try and grab media attention any way they can.
H2O MAN
 
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Reply Thu 11 Sep, 2008 06:16 am
@ebrown p,
eBroWnP, the left is currently compiling a list of prohibited words and phrases.
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H2O MAN
 
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Reply Thu 11 Sep, 2008 06:17 am
@LionTamerX,
Obama opened his mouth and he didn't get the bounce he was expecting - nothing new here.
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Thu 11 Sep, 2008 06:22 am
@LionTamerX,
When this is over O-boy won't be able to get elected dogcatcher of Pullman.
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McTag
 
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Reply Thu 11 Sep, 2008 07:16 am

This was too much for the cartoonists to resist....

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2008/09/10/LIPSTICKPIG512.jpg
H2O MAN
 
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Reply Thu 11 Sep, 2008 07:45 am
@McTag,
Obama's true meaning and intent.
engineer
 
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Reply Thu 11 Sep, 2008 07:56 am
@H2O MAN,
Quote:
Because she used the word "lipstick" in her acceptance speech.


But she uses this line all the time. It seems like this is a tempest in a teapot. (Someone didn't say "tempest" recently, did they?)
H2O MAN
 
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Reply Thu 11 Sep, 2008 08:02 am
@engineer,
engineer wrote:

Quote:
Because she used the word "lipstick" in her acceptance speech.


But she uses this line all the time.


I think it's the very first time Obama used it...
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McTag
 
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Reply Thu 11 Sep, 2008 08:04 am
@H2O MAN,

Don't be so effing silly.

If the McCain machine want to bring the debate down to that level, they haven't got much.
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revel
 
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Reply Thu 11 Sep, 2008 08:33 am
Relating to this, McCain has the ad pulled from YouTube due to copywrite infringes. Makes the sixth time McCain has been the subject of copywrite complaint.
Quote:

McCain Ad Featuring Katie Couric Removed From YouTube

A new ad from Sen. John McCain relates to Sen. Barack Obama's recent "lipstick on a pig," comment. The video also features a comment from CBS' Katie Couric (see below for that backstory). The official McCain video on YouTube can no longer be accessed, as the message reads, "This video is no longer available due to a copyright claim by CBS Interactive Inc." We hear CBS is pursuing the issue. But like most things on YouTube there are duplicates:

The clip is from one of Couric's Reporter's Notebooks back in June when she criticized the media for some of the coverage of Sen. Hillary Clinton's campaign. The McCain ad, which was hastily produced for the Web, implies Couric is being critical of the Obama campaign. A more complete quote from Couric's June Notebook:

"Like her or not, one of the great lessons of that campaign is the continued and accepted role of sexism in American life, particularly in the media."

> Update: A CBS News spokesperson tells TVNewser: "CBS News does not endorse any candidate in the presidential race. Any use of CBS personnel in political advertising that suggests the contrary is misleading."


http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/cbs/mccain_ad_featuring_katie_couric_removed_from_youtube_94128.asp?c=rss

The following is a link to McCain using the term "lipstick on a pig" in regards to Hillary.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMPYkNQlJMM

Quote:
McCAIN: LIPSTICK ON PIG OK FOR HILLARY Sarah Palin Too Frail to Handle It?

Foxfyre
 
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Reply Thu 11 Sep, 2008 09:24 am
@revel,
There is nothing wrong with the 'lipstick on a pig' metaphor and had Obama's use of it not followed more than a week of constant references by everybody, including leading Democrats, to lipstick, nothing would have been thought of it this time either. But since it DID follow more than a week of constant references to lipstick and replay after replay of Palin's joke regarding that, Obama at the very least should have known how it would sound now. And he certainly should have picked up on the audience's reaction and clarified his intention with the metaphor on the spot.

That he didn't demonstrates considerable insensitivity and/or naivete and/or another gaffe to add to a growing collection of gaffes. I'll give him benefit of the doubt that he didn't intend the phrase as a metaphor related to Palin. But neither did he do anything to correct the audience's impression that he did.
H2O MAN
 
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Reply Thu 11 Sep, 2008 10:17 am
@Foxfyre,
+1
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