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A "RIGHT" To NOT Be IGNORED ??

 
 
Robert Gentel
 
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Reply Sun 24 Aug, 2008 12:10 am
@hawkeye10,
hawkeye10 wrote:

it is a good topic, so long as you remove the claim that some a2kers have claimed that this right exists, since none have.


Read up a few posts before yours hawkeye. Seriously, who's not paying attention?
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sun 24 Aug, 2008 12:13 am
@hawkeye10,
Will u explain your denial of anyone alleging that right to exist,
in light of the quoted assertions of Agrote a/k/a thoke ?

Note, incidentally, that I am certainly in the ideological minority.




David
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Sun 24 Aug, 2008 12:23 am
@OmSigDAVID,
Agrote said "What absolute twaddle. A person's right to be heard is more important than another person's right to be ignorant. IGNORing people is IGNORant. Expressing unpopular opinions is incredibly important.

Why have you ruined Able2Know? I haven't heard a satisfactory answer yet."

he is claiming the right to educate the stupid (one that he has made many times before) , which is a different claim than the one you are alleging that he made.
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sun 24 Aug, 2008 12:35 am
@hawkeye10,

I don 't believe that the logic of your position
is sound on this point, Hawkeye.

Agrote said BOTH:
Quote:

1 ) A person's right to be heard is more important
than another person's right to be ignorant. IGNORing people is IGNORant.

and

2 ) I've never heard of a "right to ignore".
I have heard of a right not to be ignored.


To my mind it appears inescapable that Agrote claims
that if someone desires to speak, then whoever he wishes to address
has a duty to LISTEN to him and violates the speaker's rights if he fails to listen.

I disagree that any such right exists
and if he were here I 'd challenge him to prove it.




David
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Sun 24 Aug, 2008 12:58 am
@OmSigDAVID,
with quote #2, if you read the full post, as well as the one directly before it, I think that his argument is clear...agrote is claiming that ignoring others is uncivil and ruins discussion, both points that I agree with. Perhaps he is also claiming the right not to be ignored...reading it a few times I now am not sure exactly what he believes on this question. The right to not be ignored was not the primary thrust of his argument on why the ignore function is a bad idea though.
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sun 24 Aug, 2008 01:07 am
@hawkeye10,
I am not sure whether it was primary or not.
I did not argue that.
To my mind, his assertion of that alleged right is explicit and clear.
I disputed it, in defense of my right to ignore anyone.

When a salesman calls me on the fone,
I have a right to ignore him and hang up.
Agrote wishes to subvert my right.
I am fighting back.





David
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