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OGIONIK
 
Reply Tue 29 Jul, 2008 07:13 pm
do you all think death is something that needs to be experienced?


what might be some downsides to not fearing and/or experiencing death?


what are the good sides?


an infinite lifespan would lead to some extraordinary knowledge.

boredom would be a downside

fatigue maybe... mental not physical.
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Rockhead
 
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Reply Tue 29 Jul, 2008 07:17 pm
Onion, have you seen "Highlander"?

The movie, not the tv crap...

Rock
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OGIONIK
 
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Reply Tue 29 Jul, 2008 07:18 pm
when i was little, i just remember it bein graphic and sorta scary/intense.
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Rockhead
 
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Reply Tue 29 Jul, 2008 07:21 pm
Watch it again, and PM me...

Rock
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OGIONIK
 
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Reply Tue 29 Jul, 2008 07:27 pm
ooh the arrogance?

i think that is what your getting at...

i remember the blonde guy!
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hanno
 
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Reply Wed 30 Jul, 2008 02:11 am
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existential potential
 
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Reply Wed 30 Jul, 2008 12:59 pm
I like that-"purpose is already a luxury item"
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existential potential
 
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Reply Wed 30 Jul, 2008 01:02 pm
When you say "needs to be experienced" do you mean it a sense of experiencing someone elses death, or experiencing your own death, which I thought was impossible?

I don't think that there is any downsides to not fearing death.
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OGIONIK
 
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Reply Wed 30 Jul, 2008 07:38 pm
well you stop experiencing life thats for damn sure.
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Rockhead
 
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Reply Wed 30 Jul, 2008 07:43 pm
Onion, there comes a time when that is not all bad...
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existential potential
 
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Reply Thu 31 Jul, 2008 09:48 am
death is not something you experience as such I don't think. I suppose it will be like falling asleep, and then obviously never waking up.
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JLNobody
 
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Reply Thu 31 Jul, 2008 10:30 am
I agree, existential potential: we may experience DYING (the living process) but not DEATH (the afterlife condition). It is not likely that "death" can be experienced where there is no longer anyone to experience it.
The above is very problematical: it presumes experience as the possession of a living agent. As you must know by now, I do not endorse the notion of an ego/agent/subject . There is only--as I see it--experience related to the living process of organisms, not egos.
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existential potential
 
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Reply Thu 31 Jul, 2008 11:55 am
So I suppose death is not an experience, rather it is the ceasing of experience.
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hanno
 
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Reply Thu 31 Jul, 2008 01:12 pm
existential potential wrote:
I like that-"purpose is already a luxury item"


Thanks - story of my life - grew up in a depressed area, the teachers acted like the 'real world' was a celebrity we'd never meet. Then I find my calling and it becomes apparent - most people love to apply effort, they're like sled dogs, just that they know damn well if they bust their asses either someone or the cosmic balance will make johnny-bananas out of 'em. My hope is to see fishers of men return to being fishers of fish!
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OGIONIK
 
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Reply Thu 31 Jul, 2008 07:00 pm
existential potential wrote:
So I suppose death is not an experience, rather it is the ceasing of experience.


doesnt that mean it has to be an "experience"?

i sux at philosphieszorz
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existential potential
 
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Reply Fri 1 Aug, 2008 07:23 am
I know exactly what you mean Hanno. what exactly was your calling?
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hanno
 
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Reply Sat 2 Aug, 2008 10:52 am
Industry-flavored paper-pusher, I started out wanting to be a VP-of-operations. I'm uniquely qualified - I look at a situation, the form a resolution will take is apparent to me - and I've sniffed around enough to have an idea how to get my foot in the door if the planets were to align themselves. Lately I've had a better idea (or delusion thereof) though, realign my scope of activity beyond the company level - be king by my own hand Smile
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Terry
 
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Reply Mon 18 Aug, 2008 12:36 pm
@OGIONIK,
"Millions long for immortality who do not know what to do with themselves on a rainy Sunday afternoon."
- Susan Ertz

How could "experiencing" death be of any benefit to anyone, since there is no known mechanism for your consciousness to survive the event?

I see no benefit to a long life unless you are mentally and physically healthy enough to enjoy it. If it comes to the point where my life consists of sitting in a chair all day watching TV, I might as well be dead.
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Dudley Bowring
 
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Reply Mon 18 Aug, 2008 12:59 pm
I don't want to live forever.
maporsche
 
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Reply Mon 18 Aug, 2008 09:18 pm
@Dudley Bowring,
I would love to live forever......well maybe not forever, but a few hundred years would be nice.

I have high hopes for nano-technology, cloning, stem-cells, etc.

Now I just have to make sure I don't get hit by a bus.
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