immortality

Onion, have you seen "Highlander"?

The movie, not the tv crap...

Rock

when i was little, i just remember it bein graphic and sorta scary/intense.

Watch it again, and PM me...

Rock

ooh the arrogance?

i think that is what your getting at...

i remember the blonde guy!

I recall reading, when he first conceived of it, Aubrey DeGrey thought something to the effect that it would turn us into pansies, what with more than 80 potential years to lose. If the name doesn't mean anything, google ?'SENS'. Anyway, that's a logical conclusion from our perspective, but thinking through to what would be the reality of folk with indefinite life spans and means thereto - or just from that of a convalescent patient wishing for a way not to go out like a chump…

Then there's the memory thing - I didn't start miss-recalling details till about three years ago - it creeped me out at first, thought it was the boooze - I don't think I'm an alcoholic, but I do think I enjoy my brain closer to full-capacity than most do, so what's healthy for a normal boob might affect my performance - on the other hand part of peak-self-actualization-grade-performance is being able to modulate my neurotransmitter levels via careful use of tasty, refreshing beverages. At any rate, closer observation disproved the booze-degeneracy-theory as I can still hold a phone number in my head, think critically as well as I'm accustomed to doing, stuff like that and my aesthetic sensibilities seem to be working better every day. What happens is, the internal model starts overriding the external one - the junk in your brain converges, forms a picture and that picture gets used for stuff. Like the Baptists I believe in a singular reality, to my mind multifaceted - so in a way, there's only one thing to know, just that you got to know the ****-hell out of it.

Boredom and fatigue, the real danger would be getting caught up in it - becoming a creature of the mundane. If these liberals get their way the world will become a termite colony. One way or the other, purpose is already a luxury item - it could go either way, but hopefully a blast of egoism in the communal sensibilities will rattle something loose.

I like that-"purpose is already a luxury item"

When you say "needs to be experienced" do you mean it a sense of experiencing someone elses death, or experiencing your own death, which I thought was impossible?

I don't think that there is any downsides to not fearing death.

well you stop experiencing life thats for damn sure.

Onion, there comes a time when that is not all bad...

death is not something you experience as such I don't think. I suppose it will be like falling asleep, and then obviously never waking up.

I agree, existential potential: we may experience DYING (the living process) but not DEATH (the afterlife condition). It is not likely that "death" can be experienced where there is no longer anyone to experience it.
The above is very problematical: it presumes experience as the possession of a living agent. As you must know by now, I do not endorse the notion of an ego/agent/subject . There is only--as I see it--experience related to the living process of organisms, not egos.

So I suppose death is not an experience, rather it is the ceasing of experience.

Thanks - story of my life - grew up in a depressed area, the teachers acted like the 'real world' was a celebrity we'd never meet. Then I find my calling and it becomes apparent - most people love to apply effort, they're like sled dogs, just that they know damn well if they bust their asses either someone or the cosmic balance will make johnny-bananas out of 'em. My hope is to see fishers of men return to being fishers of fish!

doesnt that mean it has to be an "experience"?

i sux at philosphieszorz

I know exactly what you mean Hanno. what exactly was your calling?

Industry-flavored paper-pusher, I started out wanting to be a VP-of-operations. I'm uniquely qualified - I look at a situation, the form a resolution will take is apparent to me - and I've sniffed around enough to have an idea how to get my foot in the door if the planets were to align themselves. Lately I've had a better idea (or delusion thereof) though, realign my scope of activity beyond the company level - be king by my own hand

"Millions long for immortality who do not know what to do with themselves on a rainy Sunday afternoon."
- Susan Ertz

How could "experiencing" death be of any benefit to anyone, since there is no known mechanism for your consciousness to survive the event?

I see no benefit to a long life unless you are mentally and physically healthy enough to enjoy it. If it comes to the point where my life consists of sitting in a chair all day watching TV, I might as well be dead.

I don't want to live forever.

I would love to live forever......well maybe not forever, but a few hundred years would be nice.

I have high hopes for nano-technology, cloning, stem-cells, etc.

Now I just have to make sure I don't get hit by a bus.