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In the Absence of Something, Something Exists

 
 
Reply Tue 29 Jul, 2008 05:16 am
Is nothing still something? Or is nothing just a comparison to what is something?
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Cyracuz
 
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Reply Tue 29 Jul, 2008 06:57 am
Nothing is nothing.

And all the ways to understand that claim are true.
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Shapeless
 
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Reply Tue 29 Jul, 2008 11:35 am
I can't think of many real-life instances where having nothing would be the equivalent of having something.
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JLNobody
 
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Reply Tue 29 Jul, 2008 01:35 pm
Great comments. Nothing IS something epistemologically--which is to say that both somethings and nothings are experienced (perceptual and conceptual) phenomena. Yet, as Shapeless notes, PRAGMATICALLY, the absence of a particular "something" has consequences, e.g., the absence of kitchen salt, may result in a bland breakfast of eggs.
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rhymer
 
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Reply Tue 29 Jul, 2008 02:44 pm
Shapeless wrote:
I can't think of many real-life instances where having nothing would be the equivalent of having something.


I have no debts and I think that is equivalent to peace of mind (which is well worth having in these economic times).
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Shapeless
 
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Reply Tue 29 Jul, 2008 02:49 pm
Agreed, but your example works because the "things" being equated are of two different categories. Having no debts may equal having peace of mind, but having no debts is not equal to having some debts, nor is having no peace of mind equal to having some peace of mind. If you like, you can modify my above statement to this: I can't think of any one category of thing where having no quantity of that thing is the equivalent of having some quantity of that thing.
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OGIONIK
 
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Reply Tue 29 Jul, 2008 06:27 pm
my favorite question.

nothing, divided in two, IS SOMETHING.

and so began the universe.
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Xenoche
 
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Reply Thu 31 Jul, 2008 06:28 am
Would the space between atomic particles constitute as being nothing?

Is nothing only a term of novel fantasy conjured by our limited minds?

Are these questions even valid?

Why am I here?

Am I here?

Apparently I am.
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Thu 31 Jul, 2008 08:46 am
Nothing is the absence of something. If it were something, it would no longer be nothing.
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Cyracuz
 
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Reply Fri 1 Aug, 2008 05:30 am
You must have something to have nothing. It is a thing of contrasts and whatever our attention may be on at any given time.

If you are looking inside a warehouse for many crates, but they are not there, then there is nothing in the warehouse. But if you came in looking for air you hit the jackpot. There's lots of it there.

Everyone knows this, so why are we discussing it? Smile
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Fri 1 Aug, 2008 06:30 am
Air is definitely something and therefore couldn't possibly be nothing. It's when you are looking for anything, but do not find that you have nothing.
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