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Floating Cities....Too Cool

 
 
gungasnake
 
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Reply Fri 4 Jul, 2008 05:59 am
Basic reality: there has always been too much water on this planet since the flood. We should be looking at ways to get rid of some of it should need arise.

The good news, ifyou want to call it that, is that nobody has seen any sunspots since about January, and the last time that ever happened was in the 1600s just prior to the little ice age. The likelihood is that "global warming(TM)" is about the last thing we're going to need to worry about in the near future and for about the next 100 years.
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Bi-Polar Bear
 
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Reply Fri 4 Jul, 2008 06:29 am
it's still cool though..
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spendius
 
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Reply Fri 4 Jul, 2008 06:45 am
Thanks for a good laugh gunga.

There's too much sky as well.
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rosborne979
 
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Reply Fri 4 Jul, 2008 07:02 am
Re: Floating Cities....Too Cool

Cool. They kinda look like giant bumper-cars.
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Fri 4 Jul, 2008 11:27 am
Their doing something similar in the Netherlands (I think it was the Netherlands..), though of course a smaller scale. I might have saved the article, will post if so.
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raprap
 
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Reply Fri 4 Jul, 2008 11:28 am
Re: Floating Cities....Too Cool
rosborne979 wrote:
Cool. They kinda look like giant bumper-cars.


Perhaps bumper car look like lily pads for that same reason?

Rap
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Fri 4 Jul, 2008 11:40 am
Here's an article about what the Dutch are doing..

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2005/11/09/HOG9RFI0IJ1.DTL

Floating houses built to survive Netherlands floods
Anticipating more climate change, architects see another way to go
Peter Edidin, New York Times
Wednesday, November 9, 2005


From Jakarta to the coast of Louisiana, floodwaters are a growing concern. This is especially true in delta regions, where river and sea combine, as they do in many of the world's great cities, to create a double hazard.

No place is more concerned with this problem than the Netherlands, literally "the lowlands," where for centuries people have lived on the edge of water-borne disaster. About a quarter of the country is land reclaimed from the sea, while half of it lies at or below sea level. The country's vulnerability to rising water levels, commonly ascribed to climate change, was on full display last summer at the Rotterdam Architecture Biennale, titled "The Flood," which contained proposals for a floating soccer stadium and housing built on spongelike synthetic riverbanks capable of absorbing floodwaters.

"Since World War II, the Dutch have relied on technology for protection from the rivers and the sea," said Adriaan Geuze, a landscape architect and the chief curator of the biennale. "We are convinced that this is not a clever way to deal with reality, and three months after the exhibition closed, Katrina showed us the truth of that."

For the Dutch, as for everyone else, there appear to be no simple solutions, only costly ones, like abandoning vulnerable terrain. For the first time in its long history, the Netherlands has begun to strategically uncreate itself; last year the government, at the start of a 15-year program, began buying up land and reserving it as floodplain, mostly along river banks. The Dutch are also exploring a solution as old as the first flood: floating architecture. The notion is still in its early stages, with only a handful of houses built and a few developments under way, but it has already attracted the attention of leading Dutch designers and some developers.

If it proves sufficiently functional, affordable and attractive, floating architecture could find its way to many of the world's flood zones.
In the town of Aalsmeer, in the southwest, an area badly damaged by floods in 1953, Sjef Snel and his wife, Agnes, moved into their floating house a little more than a year ago. "It took me over six months to settle down," Snel said, "and then I knew I was at the right place."

Even better, Snel, 45, says he has no more concerns about flooding. "I feel totally safe," he said. "Our living room is 8 inches above water and the house is mobile. There is certainly no reason to be fearful."
The house was designed by Agnes Snel in collaboration with Koen Olthuis, a 34-year-old Dutch architect who has emerged as a leading advocate for floating buildings. His small practice, called Waterstudio, is devoted exclusively to such projects. "Most of these projects are in the first phase," Olthuis said from his offices in Rijswijk, "since using water, not just defending against it, is a new idea."

Dura Vermeer, one of the country's largest builders, is also experimenting with floating structures. It has created a community of 48 amphibious homes in Maasbommel, on the banks of the Maas River. The brightly colored 700-square-foot homes, designed by Factor Architecten, a large design firm based in Amsterdam, are set in what was once a parking area for recreational vehicles. "These are not houseboats," said Ger Kengen of Factor. "You have to design everything as if it were on the ground, only 10 feet up in the air."

Anna van der Molen, 45, who lives with her husband and child in one of the houses, said "not only do we live on water, but we also live with water." The houses sit on concrete pontoons that rest on footings projected slightly above the river bottom at low water periods, but ride up during floods along a pair of 15-foot poles. Their low center of gravity, created by the weight of the pontoons, makes them very stable. Still, van der Molen said, "Sometimes it is scary, very scary, when the water is coming up."

Chris Zevenbergen, the director for business development of Dura Vermeer, said, "We decided five years ago to take water as one of our strategic objectives. The company is also designing a "floating city" for 12,000 people near Schiphol Airport, not far from Amsterdam, in the fastest-growing area of the country. The design will cost more than $1.2 million, 45 percent of which will be paid for by the government. The goal is a town that can live with flooding, not just wall it off, using a variety of floating structures and an extensive system for rainwater storage, among other means.

The challenge is aesthetic as well as commercial, said Herman Hertzberger, who, at 73, is regarded by many as the grand old man of Dutch architecture. No one yet knows what waterborne housing should look like, he said, or how it should function. Hertzberger offered some possibilities several years ago in the design of an amphibious house that revolves on a base of massive steel pontoons, turning the house "toward the sun or away from a neighbor," he said. The house is in Middelburg, the capital of Zeeland, the area hardest hit by the 1953 flood, which killed more than 1,800 people.

The prototype, now owned by Don Monfils, an architect, and his wife, Lidia Filius, brought a commission from a Dutch builder to create two clusters of floating houses, each set on long concrete foundations, in the same area. There will be about 20 houses in all, Hertzberger said.

But it remains to be seen how waterborne homes, as a form, will evolve.
"The problem I have is that I have not seen any great examples of contemporary floating architecture," said Aaron Betsky, director of the Netherlands Architecture Institute in Rotterdam. "What makes a floating house different than a houseboat?"

Giving land back to the river and the sea is a solution that will create its own problems. The Netherlands is small and among the world's most densely populated countries, so the lands set aside for water must be put to productive use.

Bart Mispelblom Beyer, a principal with Tangram, a well-known Dutch architectural office, said his firm has designed 85 houses for a tidal zone near the southern city of Dordrecht. The buildings, which will rise and fall with the tide, are being built on tidal lands because that was the only site for new homes the developer could find.

A few months ago, the Ministry of Housing, Spatial Planning and the Environment announced that it was accepting proposals to develop amphibious and other types of flood-resilient structures in 15 flood-prone areas. These are places, like the plains between rivers and the dikes that hold back their waters, in which the Dutch have never permitted construction.

Some architects remain skeptical about the large-scale feasibility of floating homes. Art Zaaijer designed six houses for a lakeside development at IJburg, outside Amsterdam. They are amphibious, and since they sit in a nature preserve, are designed to be nonpolluting.
Unfortunately, Zaaijer said, development has been stalled by an economic slowdown, and his houses, he said with a mixture of amusement and chagrin, have been occupied by squatters. "There are squatters from all over the world there," he said, "totally happy, living in exceptional houses with wonderful views. Last time I went by I met a group of Brazilian painters."

Zaaijer clearly loves these homes, but he is skeptical about the contribution such structures will make. "We have six or seven million houses in Holland," he said, "and this will always be a marginal addition to them."

Betsky is not quite so pessimistic, but he acknowledges significant obstacles. "In most of the designs I've seen," he said, "the houses are isolated objects connected to the shore by a thin umbilical cord."
"A luxurious isolation tank seems to be the destiny of many Dutch lakes and rivers," he added. "Might there be a community like what one finds in Southeast Asia, where the houses connect to each other as well? I am still looking for good example.
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and an article re Dubai - next post
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Fri 4 Jul, 2008 11:44 am
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=89767297

There are a lot of interactive graphics with the article at that link.



Spurred by Rising Seas, Dubai's Floating Ambition

by Joe Palca

Morning Edition, April 21, 2008 ยท Dubai, it seems, will try just about anything. The bolder and more outlandish, the better. This Arab emirate, once a largely barren desert, now boasts the world's priciest hotel, the world's largest indoor ski slope and soon will be home to the world's tallest building.

Paul van de Camp moved to Dubai from Holland because of that "anything is possible" spirit. He isn't interested in skiing in the desert, but he has opened an office in Dubai to try to sell an equally bold concept: building on water. His company, Dutch Docklands, specializes in floating structures.

Constructing floating houses or restaurants or even villages is an idea that first came to him in his native Holland, where land to build on is scarce and water is plentiful.

Backed by Necessity

The notion gained momentum for Van de Camp when he realized that rising sea levels from climate change made new ideas crucial. And it's an idea that's about to become a reality in Dubai.

Dubai has plenty of desert, but it also has miles of coastline along the Persian Gulf. They've built loads of artificial islands offshore, but they've run out of sand.

Van de Camp has given them a new option: floating islands.

He's just gotten the green light to begin building a string of islands, each in the shape of an Arabic letter. If you were to look at the proposed islands from an airplane or an orbiting satellite, they would spell a bit of Arabic poetry written by Sheikh Mohammed bin Rashid Al Maktoum, the prime minister of the United Arab Emirates and ruler of Dubai.

The verse reads, in part: "Not everyone who rides a horse is a jockey."

The floating islands will have hotels, restaurants and even a heliport.

This project might sound like the intersection of a wild imagination and an excess of money, but Van de Camp and his partner, Koen Olthuis, hope it's something more.

They want it to change people's expectations about where it's possible to live. And because experts say climate change will bring a global rise in sea level, Van de Camp and Olthuis say a change in thinking is essential.

Water World

Olthuis says anything you can build on land, you can build on the water.

He's designed floating cruise ship terminals, a floating mosque ?- even a floating beach.

"A really wide beach with palm trees on top of it," says Olthuis. "But made of foam and concrete, with layers of white sand on top of it. You walk into the water and it feels exactly like a normal beach, but this whole island will go up and down with the fluctuation of the water."

That ability to rise up and down with the water could make floating architecture a way to cope with rising sea levels.

The design for the floating beach design is essentially the same as for the floating islands Dutch Docklands is building for the sheik in Dubai. Essentially, they are foam and concrete platforms.

"Each island is also stable," says Olthuis. "There's some damping and mooring systems underneath it, so if you're living on such an island, it feels exactly the same as a normal house. One or two days a year, when there's a big storm, you may feel a little bit of shaking, but 97 percent of the time it's absolutely the same as a normal house."

There are no basements, of course.

Flexible pipes bring in water and electricity and carry away waste.

A Model for Coastal Cities

Olthuis sees Dubai as a test bed. He and Van de Camp wanted to test their ideas for floating architecture in their native Holland, but Van de Camp says they became frustrated.

"It takes you at least eight years, and there are always problems and problems and problems," Van de Camp says. "There are always communities that say, 'We don't want it here.' So to obtain a license in the Netherlands, it's almost impossible."

But in Dubai, things are different.

"Because if the sheik gives you a license, that's a license," and you can start building right away, says Van de Camp. He says he's got several projects he's hoping to build there, including Olthius' floating hotels.

Although the two stand to make a tidy profit if the deals go through, Van de Camp says he and Olthuis are committed to building floating architecture for a much grander purpose: solving global problems. They hope to use the money they make here to undertake projects of a more humanitarian nature.

They've already designed a floating platform that people in Bangladesh could use to save livestock when flood waters rise.

But for the moment, they're tied to Dubai, with its wealth and its ambitions.

Produced by Rebecca Davis
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spendius
 
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Reply Fri 4 Jul, 2008 03:32 pm
osso- my dear

The idea is to house the millions of refugees from low lying areas such as Bagladesh when the waters rise. That's how I understood it.

It wasn't to do with exotic real-estate developments, publicity stunts and filling up the vast ghastly stretches of white space that a newspaper editor has to face as soon as he gets the last edition to bed.
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Dedshaw
 
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Reply Mon 7 Jul, 2008 09:38 pm
I think its a great idea. Many different energy sources will exist out in the ocean like they said : wind, waves, and sun. That should be plenty to power an entire "lily pad". One question is, exaclty how many do they think they would be making? My biggest question, and one which raises quite a problem, if these things aren't static and floating around the oceans and seas, whats their plan to keep them from playing bumper cars? They would need a very large and powerful pulpulsion system to steer a giant island. Otherwise, can anyone say artifical continental drift?
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nimh
 
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Reply Wed 9 Jul, 2008 05:43 pm
spendius wrote:
Thanks for a good laugh gunga.

There's too much sky as well.

Laughing
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hamburger
 
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Reply Wed 9 Jul, 2008 06:46 pm
gunga wrote :

Quote:
Basic reality: there has always been too much water on this planet since the flood. We should be looking at ways to get rid of some of it should need arise.


SOLUTION : drink more water !
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hingehead
 
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Reply Wed 9 Jul, 2008 08:14 pm
hamburger wrote:
gunga wrote :

Quote:
Basic reality: there has always been too much water on this planet since the flood. We should be looking at ways to get rid of some of it should need arise.


SOLUTION : drink more water !


Unremembered standup comedian:

'My goldfish died. He had a bladder infection. I should have realised when the bowl kept overflowing.'
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