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Excuse me!!
Would you stop for a moment?!
O...man...Haven't you thought-one day- about yourself?
Who has made it?
Have you seen a design which hasn't a designer?!
Have you seen a wonderful, delicate work without a worker?!
It's you and the whole universe! ...
Who has made them all?!!
You know who? ... It's "ALLAH", praise be to him.
Just think for a moment.
How are you going to be after death?!
Can you believe that this exact system of the universe and all of these great creations will end in nothing...just after death!
Have you thought, for a second, How to save your soul from Allah's punishment?!
Haven't you thought about what is the right religion?!
Read ... and think deeply before you answer...
It is religion of Islam.
It is the religion that Mohammad-peace upon him- the last prophet, had been sent by.
It is the religion that the right Bible- which is not distorted-has preached.
Just have a look at The Bible of (Bernaba).
Don't be emotional.
Be rational and judge...
Just look...listen...compare...and then judge and say your word.
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I've seen many places of the world on TV screen and few that I've visited either for fun or/and business
As you know when we travel we meet a lot of different cultures and people,
I found in many places I've been to; that people stereotyped Islam (that's my religion) they prejudge Muslims from what they see in media incidents.
Allow me to share with you here some information about Jesus Christ,
Muslims believe in Jesus Christ (peace and blessings of (Allah = God) be upon Him as one of the mightiest messengers from (Allah=God),
We believe he is born miraculously by the word of Allah without Father
Like ADAM been created without father nor mother,
And Marry (mar yam) is his mother the pious, pure female may Allah be pleased with her,
In fact there is a chapter in Quraan titled Marry.
Let me quote here this verse:
"BEHOLD! THE ANGELS SAID: O MARY! GOD HATH CHOSEN THEE AND PURIFIED THEE - CHOSEN THEE ABOVE THE WOMEN OF ALL NATIONS." Quraan 3:42
And these verses about Jesus:
"BEHOLD! THE ANGELS SAID: "O MARY! ALLAH GIVETH THEE GLAD TIDINGS OF A WORD FROM HIM: HIS NAME WILL BE CHRIST JESUS, THE SON OF MARY, HELD IN HONOUR IN THIS WORLD AND THE HEREAFTER AND OF (THE COMPANY OF) THOSE NEAREST TO ALLAH; HE SHALL SPEAK TO THE PEOPLE IN CHILDHOOD AND IN MATURITY, AND SHALL BE (OF THE COMPANY) OF THE RIGHTEOUS."
If this is a Quiz asking you where these Divine verses come from the Bible Torah or elsewhere?
THE Answer for your information it is from Quraan 3:45,46
This shows how much we need to know about what others believe.
You may visit this link below it'll give you broad knowledge of Islam in Questions and Answers format,

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Listen I am NOT Trying to Convert YOU, but isn't it worth it for general information to know about what other believes?
And Allah granted you and me wisdom, brain, and heart to judge for ourselves?
Needless to say if you have any comment, question, suggestion I'll be glad to share them with you.
Okay if you found my introductory bothersome in any way please forgive me,
ِAny way I hope to hear from you sooner,
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yess wrote:

Okay if you found my introductory bothersome in any way please forgive me,

Not a bothersome introduction at all. I'll be looking forward to your participation on other discussions.

Oh, I doubt anyone around here is in danger of being converted to anything, so don't worry about that.

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Thanks for sharing.

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It is worth it for general information to undertstand that it doesn't matter *what* you or I believe. In the end, it will come down to you and me before Allah, the Most High.

Who Jesus was or wasn't won't matter.
Whether you was muslim or not won't matter.
Whether you was a Christian, Jew, or Gentile, Athiest, pagan, gnostic, or agnostic won't matter in the slightest bit either.

The books that are to be opened for judgement are the books of your deeds, my deeds, and everyone else's deeds, inlcuding Jesus' and Mohammad's. And those books do not record what you profess to believe, they record what you have done. And what you have not done.

And if you don't 'believe' me, death is going to prove it to you.

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soul_doctor73 wrote:

It is worth it for general information to undertstand that it doesn't matter *what* you or I believe. In the end, it will come down to you and me before Allah, the Most High.

Who Jesus was or wasn't won't matter.
Whether you was muslim or not won't matter.
Whether you was a Christian, Jew, or Gentile, Athiest, pagan, gnostic, or agnostic won't matter in the slightest bit either.

The books that are to be opened for judgement are the books of your deeds, my deeds, and everyone else's deeds, inlcuding Jesus' and Mohammad's. And those books do not record what you profess to believe, they record what you have done. And what you have not done.

And if you don't 'believe' me, death is going to prove it to you.

You really should not include agnostics in this kind of bullshit, Doc.

In fact, considering the depth of your insights (or lack thereof) -- you really should not include intelligent people of any persuasion.

If you want to try to pass off these trite guesses of yours as fact, revelation, or knowledge, I'd suggest you stick with theists -- preferably not especially bright theists.

Although you might have some success if you set up a table at the rear of the closest K-Mart. Perhaps they will give you a flashing blue light to help you attract the kind of people you seem to be looking for.

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Why not agnostics? I do not believe that the nature of God can be proven. I do not believe that the existence of God can be 'proven'. I am, by definition, an agnostic.

But I am also faithful. I am spiritual. What is God? I am God. God is how I live and breath. And God will be how I die.

Now that doesn't prove anything. What is different between me and you is that I don't need proof. And I don't want it. And I don't want to talk to you about God. I dont want to talk to you about what you think or believe about God. I don't, and I mean this sincerely, care.

What I do care about is how you treat me. And how everyone else is treated. Because that is important. The basic needs of life are important. And the fact that the basic needs are not important to everyone equally is what motivates me.

So I believe in Love. And that has nothing to do with you. It is what *I* chose to do.

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soul_doctor73 wrote:

Why not agnostics? I do not believe that the nature of God can be proven. I do not believe that the existence of God can be 'proven'. I am, by definition, an agnostic.

But I am also faithful. I am spiritual. What is God? I am God. God is how I live and breath. And God will be how I die.

Now that doesn't prove anything. What is different between me and you is that I don't need proof. And I don't want it. And I don't want to talk to you about God. I dont want to talk to you about what you think or believe about God. I don't, and I mean this sincerely, care.

What I do care about is how you treat me. And how everyone else is treated. Because that is important. The basic needs of life are important. And the fact that the basic needs are not important to everyone equally is what motivates me.

So I believe in Love. And that has nothing to do with you. It is what *I* chose to do.

You are a rambler, Doc, and your posts really don't make enough sense to warrant a response. But I'm a sucker for sad cases!

"Believe" whatever the hell you want -- but any time you pretend to be an agnostic, I'm going to come down on your like a house of bricks -- because you are not an agnostic -- you are a very mouthy wanna-be messiah.

I have no problem with people deluding themselves -- but if you want to post your delusions here where they can be discussed, they will be discussed.

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We can only hope for another comet to pass by.

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All who died in the World Trade Centre attack say hello, yess, and thank you deeply for joining and posting your rant on September 11. I am certain they are all enjoying thier multiple virgins in Allah's heaven right now. Despite the ire, I don't object to your post, just it's bad taste in timing.

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Frank Apisa wrote:

soul_doctor73 wrote:
Why not agnostics? I do not believe that the nature of God can be proven. I do not believe that the existence of God can be 'proven'. I am, by definition, an agnostic.

But I am also faithful. I am spiritual. What is God? I am God. God is how I live and breath. And God will be how I die.

Now that doesn't prove anything. What is different between me and you is that I don't need proof. And I don't want it. And I don't want to talk to you about God. I dont want to talk to you about what you think or believe about God. I don't, and I mean this sincerely, care.

What I do care about is how you treat me. And how everyone else is treated. Because that is important. The basic needs of life are important. And the fact that the basic needs are not important to everyone equally is what motivates me.

So I believe in Love. And that has nothing to do with you. It is what *I* chose to do.

You are a rambler, Doc, and your posts really don't make enough sense to warrant a response. But I'm a sucker for sad cases!

"Believe" whatever the hell you want -- but any time you pretend to be an agnostic, I'm going to come down on your like a house of bricks -- because you are not an agnostic -- you are a very mouthy wanna-be messiah.

I have no problem with people deluding themselves -- but if you want to post your delusions here where they can be discussed, they will be discussed.

I am not an agnostic? Then how do you define 'ag-nos-tic'? Do you imply some sort of play on words in order to support your self perception of what *you* are as compared to what you think I am? I don't care how you *see* me. But how do you *feel* about 'me'?

Pointed question, Frank. You don't want to see yourself in the same 'group' as I am? You say I am a rambler, and I admit, it is something I am working on, but why must you 'say' so?

In apparent hostility, no less. I just can't figure out why.

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Um, maybe I should have followed the links before commenting.

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cavfancier wrote:

All who died in the World Trade Centre attack say hello, yess, and thank you deeply for joining and posting your rant on September 11. I am certain they are all enjoying thier multiple virgins in Allah's heaven right now. Despite the ire, I don't object to your post, just it's bad taste in timing.

If this is directed at me, all who died in the WTC *are*, in fact, dead. Unless you know something I don't, they don't care anything about what I think, or you for that matter.

The dead are not worthy of your respect. They cannot honor it. So why commend it to them? While they lived, respecting them was important. Three thousand people dying all at once only means that 3000 families had experienced the death of someone close all at the same time. And there is nothing special or even remotely unique about that.

Two year ago, or today.

Respect the living. Honor the the dead with your memory of them. Your tears are useless when they are dead. Your eloquent words of 'rememberance' pompous efforts to promote your own self image in the eyes of the living who remain. Because the living are the only ones who can witness your tears or hear your words. The dead care not. I care not.

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soul_doctor73 wrote:

I don't care how you *see* me.

Yeah, sure!

I can tell because you just let what I say (and what others have said to you in other threads) slide off your back rather than posting dozens of responses.

Gimme a break, will ya!

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But how do you *feel* about 'me'?

Thank you for asking that. I can respond to that question without violating the TOS.

I think you are a pompous ass -- deluding yourself into thinking that some rather trite surface observations and guesses you are making about life and reality are significant, learned, and iconoclastic.

I think that with the finesse, tact, and condescension you have shown so far in the few posts I seen from you -- you will go far -- provided you refrain from sharing your notions in a forum of this sort and instead offer them up in the local bowling alley or shot-and-a-beer joint.

Once again -- thanks for asking.

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Pointed question, Frank. You don't want to see yourself in the same 'group' as I am?

Absolutely, positively not!

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You say I am a rambler, and I admit, it is something I am working on, but why must you 'say' so?

It has nothing to do with what I "must" say -- I merely mentioned it.

Do more work on it, Doc.

You've got a very long way to go.

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In apparent hostility, no less. I just can't figure out why.

Me hostile???

Jeez, I'm a pussycat.

Keep going the way you are and some of the people around here will show you real hositility.

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Oh jeez soul_doctor, it's not all about you, get your head out of your ass already. If you read the original post here, you would know that mine was directed to yess, not you! Tears aren't a part of it at all, and if you actually read my post you would know that. I was being sarcastic and flippant, not upset, and your pedantic pontificating is so annoying, I may just vomit. Arrgh...I think I'm just going to stay away from these threads for a while. Apologies to the moderators, if this is considered a personal attack, it is not, I am just annoyed.

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There ya go Frank, whaddya think? soul_doctor crossed the line for me with his self-centred rambling.

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agnostics don't believe or disbelieve in the concept of god. They can say certain namable dieties don't exist: for example, muhammed, Inanna, or Jesus, because they have ascribed traits.

Yess.... Go study some biology.

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cavfancier wrote:

Oh jeez soul_doctor, it's not all about you, get your head out of your ass already. If you read the original post here, you would know that mine was directed to yess, not you! Tears aren't a part of it at all, and if you actually read my post you would know that. I was being sarcastic and flippant, not upset, and your pedantic pontificating is so annoying, I may just vomit. Arrgh...I think I'm just going to stay away from these threads for a while. Apologies to the moderators, if this is considered a personal attack, it is not, I am just annoyed.

For some reason, I missed that. I saw 'yess', and thought it was a mispelling and part of the post. Smile

I thought you were pontificating on the memorial observance of 9/11. My point being it is wasted effort on the part of those observing the memorial, as those who are memorialized cannot observe.

So yes, I'm eating crow.

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