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Thu 29 May, 2008 09:27 am
Hello! My name Giwi, 34 years old, from Georgia. You know it was great surpriz for me to know thta parliamentary elections we had here on 21 of May was to say "successful exam to join NATO". According to our authorities this elections showed not success of democracy reforms in our country, but the readiness of Georgia to become a member of NATO! But will we really become full member of NATO? I read little about this in internet, I did not understand everythin, but what I hear, such buffer countries like our Georgia not get usually full membership as this will affect effectivenes of NATO. Insted of it we get some other status.
Is this really so? I think this is. Becourse something not clear going on here. For example, not lomg ago our army command had meeting with representative delegation of US army medical research institute named after W. Reed under lead of US Army commander colonel Bertman himself! I wonder what experiments on our soldiers did our authorities have to agree in order to pay for the continuous support of our over-Atlantic sponsors? May be that is why they want us join NATO so quickly? Washington simply want to have our boys for their experiments in military medicin!
How's the peach crop looking this year?
Green Witch, I think he's from Georgia that is close to the Black Sea,
Turkey and Armenia.
No way.
Those Georgians are always going on about joining NATO, especially when you get them lickered up.
I have a cousin in Savannah, and that's all she'll talk about.
CalamityJane wrote:Green Witch, I think he's from Georgia that is close to the Black Sea,
Turkey and Armenia.
Real Americans know that only man-eating dragons and Arabs lie beyond our shores.
(CJ, Surely you realize I was being a smart-a$$)
I did.
Gullible CJ ....
And I've heard Washington is very interested in the medical experiments on the Georgian soldiers, so this is a very good reason to allow them to join NATO. Makes perfect sense to me.
Re: Hello from Georgia! I have question
I guess the Georgian aspiration to join NATO is mainly caused by their hopes that NATO can help them to regain full control over Abkhazia and South Ossetia. I do not think that NATO countries are ready to send their soldiers to fight against Abkhazians and Ossetians but with NATO membership the bargaining power of the Georgian government at any negotiations could be stronger.
Georgia Is Warned by Russia Against Plans to Join NATO
NEW YORK TIMES
By SOPHIA KISHKOVSKY
Published: June 7, 2008
ST. PETERSBURG, Russia ?- President Dmitri A. Medvedev of Russia warned the Georgian president, Mikheil Saakashvili, on Friday that Georgia's joining NATO would deepen the conflict between the former Soviet states.
After the two leaders met behind closed doors at a palace outside St. Petersburg, Russia's foreign minister, Sergey V. Lavrov, said that Mr. Medvedev told Mr. Saakashvili that his quest for NATO membership would not help resolve the simmering tensions in the separatist Georgian regions of Abkhazia and South Ossetia.
"We have stressed again that Georgia would not be able to achieve this by artificially pulling itself into NATO because this would lead to another stage of confrontation," Mr. Lavrov said.
The conflict in Abkhazia has increased friction between the nations in recent months.
In April, a Russian fighter jet shot down a Georgian reconnaissance drone over Abkhazia, according to a United Nations investigation. And last month, Russia sent paratroopers and artillery across the border to reinforce its peacekeeping force there.
On Monday, Georgian officials demanded that Russia withdraw the additional troops, as well as a Russian Army unit that Russia said was sent to repair infrastructure in the region.
The European Union's external relations commissioner, Benita Ferrero-Waldner, warned this week that the Russian troop buildup in Abkhazia could destabilize the region, which had a civil war in the 1990s. And Mr. Medvedev said Friday that German leaders had expressed their concern to him about relations between Russia and Georgia on Thursday during his first visit to Europe as president.
Mr. Lavrov said Friday that Russia wanted to resolve the conflicts, but not with outside help, a position both leaders appeared to endorse during a photo opportunity at the Konstantinovsky Palace.
"I think that we're capable of solving all the problems ourselves, overcoming the difficulties that exist and building long-term relations," said Mr. Medvedev, who was inaugurated as Vladimir V. Putin's successor last month.
Then Mr. Medvedev turned to Mr. Saakashvili and asked, "What do you think?"
Mr. Saakashvili said that he agreed and that many of the problems between the countries were "artificially created."
"Russia and Georgia are countries that are very close to each other on historical, cultural and human levels," he said.
Mr. Saakashvili, however, did not back away from his long-term goal of joining NATO. Georgia has applied for membership, and NATO has promised that it will eventually be accepted.
Mr. Medvedev has argued that NATO membership for Georgia or Ukraine, which has also sought membership, would threaten Russian security.
Mr. Lavrov said that the meeting between them at an informal gathering of leaders of the Commonwealth of Independent States, a group made up of most of the former Soviet republics, was "very calm, very quiet, no confrontation at all."
He also said that the deployment of 300 Russian troops to make repairs in Abkhazia last weekend was meant to pre-empt the use of force rather than prepare for Russian intervention.
Abkhazia borders the Krasnodar region of Russia, which includes Sochi, the site of the 2014 Winter Olympics. The Games are being promoted by the Kremlin as a symbol of Russia's revival after years of post-Soviet turmoil.
Mr. Medvedev also met on Friday with President Viktor A. Yushchenko of Ukraine. Mr. Lavrov said the leaders had discussed several points of contention: the Russian Black Sea Fleet, which is based in Ukraine's Crimean peninsula; gas prices; and Mr. Yushchenko's efforts to unify the Ukrainian Orthodox Church.
Gazprom, the Russian state-controlled natural gas monopoly, has halted supplies to Ukraine in the past and has threatened to do so again, demanding that the government in Kiev pay market prices. The dispute has been of grave concern to Europe because 80 percent of Gazprom's supplies to Europe run though Ukrainian territory.
Michael Schwirtz contributed reporting.
SerSo is, at least, civil in his assessment of the worth of Georgian government policies. We have a Russian propagandist (probably a not too bright member of the FSB, which is to say, the typical employee) who comes here, and has done for years, to heap abuse on the Georgians. They are pawns of George Bush, they produce vile wine, they are attempting to poison the world with their vile wine, George Bush is a part of a conspiracy to force vile Georgian wines on the world, they are viciously slaughtering the poor, innocent Abkhazians and Ossetians, they cheat on their wives and their income tax returns. You can always spot him (the otherwise anonymous Russian, not SerSo) because of his appallingly bad English, and the fact that he never returns to any thread he has started. Lately, he has branched out into condemnations of the American government based on "failures" such as the fire at Universal Studios, which was obviously an act of Muslim terrorists, which "our" government is covering up. (His insistence on employing such execrable English, combined with truly hilarious and opaque failures to express himself coherently, when combined with the use of the second person plural--"we," "our," "us"--would be funny, if not so pathetic.)
However, as we all know, the last time Georgia produced a competent leader was when Tamara was queen in the 12th century.
OmSigDAVID wrote:CalamityJane wrote:Green Witch, I think he's from Georgia that is close to the Black Sea,
Turkey and Armenia.

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