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That Miley Cyrus photograph.

 
 
littlek
 
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Reply Mon 12 May, 2008 05:36 pm
Someone might trip on her.
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Mame
 
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Reply Mon 12 May, 2008 05:38 pm
And then she'd whack them and there'd be the po-lice and everything...
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littlek
 
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Reply Mon 12 May, 2008 05:38 pm
I'm just not getting the angst about this photo. I agree with Boomer that it's boring. I don't think it's sexual. I don't think that 15 is really a child. She's a teenager. Maybe I need to readjust my moral compass.
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Mon 12 May, 2008 06:22 pm
I saw the photo some time earlier this week or last few weeks, and thought, eh, with a riff to myself on judgement, but more about the photo with dad I haven't seen but read about.

I looked quickly at the link just now, and thought, I kind of like it. Reminds me of a certain painting, maybe Spanish, that is not arriving at the front of my brain right this minute.

I'll have to review - for fun - Liebowitz's work. I often mix up who took what famous photo of whom.

And, by the way, I spent some time today reading about Pascal Dangin, master digital photo retoucher, in the May 12 New Yorker. Back with a link if it's on their site this early. Now there's a fascinating article.
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Mon 12 May, 2008 06:25 pm
Good, here it is.

http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2008/05/12/080512fa_fact_collins
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Ragman
 
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Reply Mon 12 May, 2008 06:41 pm
huh? "Pixel Perfect"?
osso: wrong date for link to New Yorker as the article you linked was date-marked as today (May 12) titled "Pixel Perfect"
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boomerang
 
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Reply Mon 12 May, 2008 06:46 pm
No, that's correct. It's not an article about the photo in question but an article about a master retoucher. Interesting stuff. I'm saving it for later when my head is not so foggy.
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CalamityJane
 
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Reply Mon 12 May, 2008 06:50 pm
Lolita comes to mind, when I see the picture. Why the hell did her parents
allow it, would be my question. Then I reconsider and realize that Miley's father is a screwed up mediocre country singer who fathered quite a few children with various women and her mother was openly called a " rock star groupie" and had two or three kids by different men before teaming up
with Billy Ray.

It was a poor judgment call on Annie Liebowitz's part, but I am certain it
was not her choice to take this Lolita picture.

In today's world where child pornography has become so prevalent,
pictures like these just promote what shouldn't be.


I hope you feel better, boomer!
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Ragman
 
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Reply Mon 12 May, 2008 06:52 pm
Billy Ray - your nose is gonna grow!
Just rambling a bit here, so don't scratch too deeply here:

Well, my secret wish was that the Hanna Montana/Miley Ray Cyrus image would stay on the up-and-up for the sake of ...umm... (fill in the blanks). What I disliked in this story was the dad claiming he didn't approve of the pix. This scenario is just impossible to believe as an adult has to sign the release of the pix to be published. Billy Ray - your nose is gonna grow!

I guess my blank would be filled in with "... for the sake of having a role model for pre-teens". Whether or not she can still be that role model, is debatable. Lord knows 15-yr-olds know the score, but how about a decent role model for 10-13 yr olds.

As an advanced photographer with professional experience with image editing software, I can attest first-hand to what you can do with image editing software. The 'net is loaded to the gunnels with heads of celebs "grafted" onto nude body models.

Sorry to disappoint those porn fantasizers, but 90% of those nude celeb pix are not real .... as in celebs looking that way in the flesh.
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Mon 12 May, 2008 07:07 pm
It's the right article, Ragman. Interesting to me.
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boomerang
 
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Reply Mon 12 May, 2008 07:14 pm
Thanks, CJane.

Depression and I have held hands almost all my life. Sometimes we've gone steady, even talked of marriage. Thankfully I've learned to decipher when it is really just a booty cal and as irrisitable as he is I've learned to just say "No".

The photo does have a very Lolita vibe. While I'm not a big fan of celebrity portrature AL is very, very good at what she does.

Her Whoopie Goldberg in the milk bath has always been an image that shifted me into thinking about different visuals. Hang on... I'm certain I can find it....

http://www.pbs.org/wnet/americanmasters/database/leibovitz_pop/1.jpg

That's a brilliant portrait!
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Ragman
 
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Reply Mon 12 May, 2008 07:31 pm
me too, osso. thanks for putting in on here.
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shewolfnm
 
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Reply Mon 12 May, 2008 08:14 pm
Re: Billy Ray - your nose is gonna grow!
Ragman wrote:
Billy Ray - your nose is gonna grow!.


hopefully not a mullet..
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shewolfnm
 
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Reply Mon 12 May, 2008 08:15 pm
I do love the whoopie photo.

As 'cliche' ( spell it? ) as it is.. I love, love love the Yoko and John photo.

Gotta be one of , if not THE favorite of mine she has done
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eoe
 
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Reply Mon 12 May, 2008 08:29 pm
CalamityJane wrote:
It was a poor judgment call on Annie Liebowitz's part, but I am certain it was not her choice to take this Lolita picture.


I'd bet money that it was her choice. A photographer of her caliber conceptualizes and art directs her own photo shoots. She probably sits down with her subjects and discuss each shot beforehand but I would think that if not the girls' parents then Disney would have had some sort of photo approval in their contract, considering that she's such a valued and delicate commodity. If they didn't, which I reeeeally find incredibly hard to believe, I'll bet they damn sure do now.
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shewolfnm
 
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Reply Mon 12 May, 2008 08:53 pm
Im naive

I can do a lot with photoshop, flash8 , z brush..e tc




but


does Annie doctor her photos?
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shewolfnm
 
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Reply Mon 12 May, 2008 08:54 pm
doctor/ edit etc..
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Ragman
 
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Reply Mon 12 May, 2008 08:57 pm
You bet she (or assistants) do, though maybe not in this case of Miley..but in general, why not?

Not that she ever photographed Barbra Streisand (that I know of) but a photographer would lose ...ummm "family jewels if they EVER photographed Babs without a soft focus filter to iron out her wrinkles, etc.
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Mon 12 May, 2008 08:58 pm
Disney has of course changed in some increments over the years, especially a kind of leap, when... with Katzenburg. I'm not his greatest fan, unrelated to this thread. My aunt and uncle met at Disney in the thirties. He was treasurer, at the time, I think. Bunch of my uncles have been treasurers of seeming nifty companies. I missed that gene, snort. Both of my cousins are financial wizards, at least to me.


On the photo, I don't hate it, do get the angst relative to the preteen world. Like Mame, I don't care very much, but on the other hand I am a sort of photo history maven. Just see the Morris threads I've started with zip interest.


(do get depression and its warding off)
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shewolfnm
 
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Reply Mon 12 May, 2008 09:00 pm
true.

I dont think there is anything wrong with touching things up, adding color etc.

I was just looking at her.. Queen photo.. trying to see lighting.. etc

and I dont. Which is GOOD and what you want.. but it just made me wonder
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