The Holy Bible vs The Holy Qur'an

Akhnaton, if he were still around, could sue for copyright infringment.

Joe(That would be a fun case to watch)Nation

Uh... yeah. Neither. Not by a long shot.

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Both constantly contradict themselves and cause stupid confrontation and sectarianism... I'm not saying do not belive in it, its your human free will to worship what you want, but do not cause pain and suffering and riots over a book that stoners many years ago wrote for a bit of fun and wanted ta make money out of... because i for one refuse to believe the 'bibles' lies, especially after the catholic corrupting it even more and hiding massive passages from the public.
Is that a religion? Well i don't want part of it.
I believe in A god, but not the same one everyone else that waste their time infront of an old man/woman every sunday morning having the lies poured into there ears...

Re: The Holy Bible vs The Holy Qur'an


4 centuries too late for what?

Re: The Holy Bible vs The Holy Qur'an


too late too be accurately associated with any of the events it claims to be associated with, considering the books that are within tend to get shorter the older they get

Mohammed was a prophet of Jesus Christ so why do the two books have to necessarily conflict (other than in erroneous perceptions of them)?

The Bible predicts prophets, apostles, evangelists, pastors and teachers will arise out of the Christian church.

Another option in the poll is that the true word of God is contained in "both" books in varying degrees.

Nope. Sorry, rex. Sorry, Christians. Mohammed is the last prophet and the Word was fulfilled and will be unchanged even when and if Jesus was to come back. The Koran is the final word and you guys had your chance to embrace it but you missed it and are now stuck living in apostasy. Too bad. Even more too bad for the Jews. They missed the Message of God twice.

However, everyone can save themselves merely by embracing Islam and declaring their belief in the One True God.

Joe(what could be easier?)Nation

hail islam, hail mohammad

thats me saved, hahahaha the rest of you are doooooomed

he is the guy who came up with Aten-ism right??

some book... that which predicts predictors.

Peace be upon you!


The Quran was revealed by God to the Holy Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) over a period of about 23 years.

Unlike the Old and the New Testaments, the Quran has been preserved in
its entirety.

The Quranic revelations were memorised and recorded immediately upon their revelation.

The revelations were conveyed to the Prophet in small segment by the angel Gabriel who made the Prophet recite the revealed verses in his presence.

From the very outset, the Prophet employed two independent but mutually complementary methods for preserving the revelations ; memorisation and inscription.

Besides ensuring independently the transmission of the revelation, the
two methods also served as internal checks, thus ensuring its accurate
preservation.

Islamic traditions record that the Prophet employed four principal teachers whom he personally instructed in memorising the revelations.
By this method, even the correct pronunciation of the message was
preserved.

These teaches would then help others in their memorisation of the revealed verses.

Moreover, as the revelations were received, they were also recited in the five daily prayers. Thus, the main mode of preservation and transmission of the Quranic revelations was through memorisation.

Interestingly, the Quran was literally preserved by being written on the hearts of people, as prophesied in the Bible:

But this is the covenant which I will make with the house of Israel after those days says the Lord: "I will put my law within them, and I will write it upon their hearts; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people." Jeremiah 31:33

Thus, the memorisation process proved to be the single, most effective
method for preserving Quranic revelation.

Alternately, the revelation was also recorded in written form, soon after its receipt. Islamic tradition records that fifteen scribes were employed by the Prophet for preserving the revelations in writing from the Prophet's dictation. This method of preservation was to serve as a backup.


Once a year during the month of Ramadan (the Muslim month of fasting),
the angel Gabriel would recite the entire revelation, revealed up to that time with the Prophet.


This regular annual recitation was also meant to arrange the revelations in their present order.


At the time of the Prophet's death, the number of people who had memorised the entire Quran exceeded one hundred thousand.

The process of new converts accepting Islam continued as did the process of memorising the entire Quran.

The Quran propagated through the process of memorisation ensured its survival in its pristine purity.

During the Caliphate of Abu Bakr (the first Caliph after the Prophet's
death), over 500 people who knew the entire Quran by heart, were killed in a battle. This tragic event served as the catalyst to accelerate the process of preserving the written Quranic revelation as an alternative method of safeguarding God's message.

Thereupon, the Caliph Abu Bakr appointed a commission and charged it with the task of compiling the Quranic revelations into one volume. The commission assembled the scribes employed by the Prophet for recording the revelations and compiled the recorded texts into one volume. The
accuracy of the text of this volume was checked by the Prophet's disciples who had committed the entire Quran to their memory as well
as from the written scripts. This one volume compilation was completed
within two years of the Prophet's death.

The third Caliph, Uthman, had the same commission prepare seven
additional copies of the Quran. After being thoroughly checked for
accuracy, these copies were distributed throughout the Muslim world.


Some of these copies still survive. One such copy is preserved in a
Turkish Museum, which has been used by leading authorities to compare
the current Quranic text.

After additional copies of the Quran were compiled and distributed throughout the Muslim world, the third Caliph Uthman considered it essential that the original recording be destroyed, due to the following reasons:

Because of their uniqueness, they might be revered by people to the
point of worship, thus potentially defeating the essence of Islam. They might be desecrated and also serve as a tool for blackmail if they fell into enemy hands.

Contrasting the compilation of the Old and New Testaments with that of
the Quran, Divine designs become more evident. Muslims can claim that
the Quran around the world is uniform, even in its minutest detail. It is exactly the same as was originally revealed to the Holy Prophet and which was assembled in one volume by the first Caliph, Abu Bakr. The
Encyclopaedia Britannica, among other independent sources, testifies to this fact and concedes this point to the Muslims. The authenticity of the Quran is beyond the slightest shadow of doubt. It had to be so because God Himself has promised to safeguard the integrity of His Word. The Holy Quran 15:10
Verily, it is WE Who have sent down this Exhortation, and most surely
WE are its Guardians

The Quran has the additional unique distinction among all other scriptures of being an entirely verbal revelation. That, in itself, is a guarantee that it would not be perverted or twisted. All non-Muslim scholars who have researched into the integrity of the text of the Holy Quran agree that it is an exact and accurate version of the verbal revelation that Muhammad, the Prophet of Islam (sa), claimed that God had vouchsafed to him.

This Divine guarantee of safeguarding the Quran is not confined to preserving the integrity of the text alone. It extends to all factors that bear upon the preservation of the Quran as the perfect source of Divine guidance for the whole of mankind, for all times. For instance, it is guaranteed that the language in which it was revealed, namely Arabic, would always continue to be a living language in current use, so that no difficulty might be met with in determining and comprehending the meaning of the Quran. Arabic is today spoken and written over a much greater area of the earth and by many hundred times the number of people than was the case when Quran was revealed. Besides, the Holy Prophet predicted that at the beginning of every century, God Almighty would raise someone, from among his followers, who would set forth from the Quran the guidance that may be needed by mankind from time to time. In the case of no other scriptures has the integrity of its text, its language and its guidance been maintained.

That Divine Challenge put forth almost 1400 years ago is still valid today. The very fact that no other versions of the Quran exists is overwhelming evidence of its Divine protection.

Islam has its equivalent of the Gospels in the Ahadiths. These are the
collected sayings of Muhammad and the story of his deeds. The Gospels
are nothing other than this for Jesus. The first collections of Ahadiths were written decades after the death of Muhammad, just as the Gospels were written decades after Jesus. In both cases they bear human witness to events in the past.

There are no scientific errors in the Quran .

In conclusion then, the Pentateuch (Torah), as we know it today, is
not exactly the same as it was revealed to Moses. The later books of
Old Testament have also undergone many revisions and modifications for
many words and phrases found in the older versions have been changed
in subsequent revisions. It may be coincidental that many of the changed words, or sections are those which the Muslims have used in support of their view point. In spite of the inconsistencies among the various versions, the Old Testament still foretells the promulgation of a new law from God to guide future generations.

The absolute accuracy of the Bible can be best described by quoting
from the preface of the Revised Standard Version, which describes it
as the most probable reconstruction of events based on the best
judgement of competent scholars.( The Holy Bible, RSV Catholic Edition, Catholic Biblical Association of Great Britain, Pub. London Catholic Truth Society.)



The Quran, on the other hand, stands alone in its absolute authenticity. Its accuracy is beyond the slightest shadow of a doubt. This fact has been corroborated by many independent researchers and can also be verified today through comparison with on of the first written copies.
The Quran - History of Text -- w.alislam.org/library/links/00000054.html

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SOME FULFILLED PROPHECIES OF QURAN

FINGER PRINTS
"Their skins will bear witness against them as to what they have been doing" (41:21)
The finger prints system prove the fulfillment of this Quranic prophecy.

GENETIC ENGINEERING
"They will alter Allah's creation." (4:120)

NEW TRANSPORT SYSTEMS
"And when the she-camels, ten months pregnant are abandoned." (81:5)
"And He has created horses and mules and asses that you may ride them, and as a source of beauty. And He will create what you do not yet know." (16:9)
As we know people, specially those living in deserts, have now abandoned camels and other animals for travelling. But this prophecy of invention and emergence of new transport systems is on-going as we witness new and faster modes of transportation emerging all the time.

ZOO
"And when the wild beasts are gathered together." (81:6)
Nobody could ever imagine that one day wild beasts shall be captured, tamed and put together in closed and open parks. The establishment of zoo have fulfilled this prophecy.


OCCEANS LINKED
"And when the rivers are made to flow into each other." (81:7)
"He has made the two bodies of water flow. They will one day meet. Between them there is a barrier; they cannot encroach one upon the other." (55:20,21)
"And He it is Who shall merge the two seas together. This palatable and sweet, that saltish and bitter. And between them He has (presently) placed a barrier and a massive partition." (25:54)
This phenomenal prophecy is an excellent proof of truthfulness of Quran. It was beyond imagination of any one living 1400 years ago to even think of linking of oceans which we see today in Panama and Suez canals.

w.alislam.org/library/articles/prophecies.html