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Thu 10 Apr, 2008 05:50 am
Freud found meaningfulness within the psychopathology of everyday life, including slips of the tongue, errors, dreams, and random thoughts.
"Meaningfulness means expression of a purpose or an intention." The expressions contained in dreams were Freud's principal means for discovering the presence of the unconscious. These dream expressions uncovered an existence that drove Freud "to embrace the paradox that there are in the human being purposes of which he knows nothing, involuntary purposes, or, in more technical Freudian language, "unconscious" ideas."
The dynamic conflict between the unconscious and the conscious, i.e. neurosis, is not easily recognized as such by the untutored self.
SGCS (Second Generation Cognitive Science) has recently discovered the importance of the cognitive unconsciousness. Utilizing new brain scanning technology and computer modeling, cognitive science has, in the last three to four decades, introduced us to a new concept; "the unconscious cognitive mind". This new theory of cognition has made us conscious of the fact that most of our conscious life is dictated by our unconscious cognitive processes. Conservatively speaking 95% of cognitive thought is unconscious.
Comprehension of even the most basic human tendencies is no longer available to the common sense intuition. To grasp the essential elements of living successfully within a high tech society we must find ways to supplement our meager formal education that seems to prepare us only for a life of production and consumption; without the necessary understanding needed to be satisfied and successful in that new world where common sense is no longer sufficient for comprehending the vicissitudes of living.
Have you checked on your unconscious life lately? How does one check on their unconscious life?
coberst wrote:
Have you checked on your unconscious life lately? How does one check on their unconscious life?
By examining our dreams, as well as the irrational choices we make. These are clues.
coberst wrote:Comprehension of even the most basic human tendencies is no longer available to the common sense intuition. To grasp the essential elements of living successfully within a high tech society we must find ways to supplement our meager formal education that seems to prepare us only for a life of production and consumption; without the necessary understanding needed to be satisfied and successful in that new world where common sense is no longer sufficient for comprehending the vicissitudes of living.
More of your typical horsecrap... People drive cars every day without comprehending how the computer built into them controls air flow and combustion within the engine. There are thousands of things people do every single day they don't require comprehension. I'd wager you don't comprehend the aspects of how the software that runs this very site works but you manage to post here.
A scientist doesn't need to comprehend every aspect of copper mining to make use of the scientific instruments that are made possible by that mining activity.
People only need to comprehend how to make use of what is available to them.
hawkeye10 wrote:coberst wrote:
Have you checked on your unconscious life lately? How does one check on their unconscious life?
By examining our dreams, as well as the irrational choices we make. These are clues.
Have you made a strong effort to study your dreams? Do you know of a good book on such matters?
fishin wrote:coberst wrote:Comprehension of even the most basic human tendencies is no longer available to the common sense intuition. To grasp the essential elements of living successfully within a high tech society we must find ways to supplement our meager formal education that seems to prepare us only for a life of production and consumption; without the necessary understanding needed to be satisfied and successful in that new world where common sense is no longer sufficient for comprehending the vicissitudes of living.
More of your typical horsecrap... People drive cars every day without comprehending how the computer built into them controls air flow and combustion within the engine. There are thousands of things people do every single day they don't require comprehension. I'd wager you don't comprehend the aspects of how the software that runs this very site works but you manage to post here.
A scientist doesn't need to comprehend every aspect of copper mining to make use of the scientific instruments that are made possible by that mining activity.
People only need to comprehend how to make use of what is available to them.
One of the reasons we need to learn something about psychology, i.e. about our unconscious, is because the first five years of an infant's life determines to a great extent what the personality of that individual will be for their entire life.
Only when we begin to comprehend our self can we begin to solve many of our problems that if left to fester may well destroy our civilization. We have developed a strong technology, which if left without proper understanding may well destroy our civilization.
We can no longer afford the luxury of just intellectually coasting through life. We either become part of the solution or we remain part of the problem. We must become self-actualizing self-learners when our school daze are over.
coberst wrote:fishin wrote:coberst wrote:Comprehension of even the most basic human tendencies is no longer available to the common sense intuition. To grasp the essential elements of living successfully within a high tech society we must find ways to supplement our meager formal education that seems to prepare us only for a life of production and consumption; without the necessary understanding needed to be satisfied and successful in that new world where common sense is no longer sufficient for comprehending the vicissitudes of living.
More of your typical horsecrap... People drive cars every day without comprehending how the computer built into them controls air flow and combustion within the engine. There are thousands of things people do every single day they don't require comprehension. I'd wager you don't comprehend the aspects of how the software that runs this very site works but you manage to post here.
A scientist doesn't need to comprehend every aspect of copper mining to make use of the scientific instruments that are made possible by that mining activity.
People only need to comprehend how to make use of what is available to them.
One of the reasons we need to learn something about psychology, i.e. about our unconscious, is because the first five years of an infant's life determines to a great extent what the personality of that individual will be for their entire life.
Only when we begin to comprehend our self can we begin to solve many of our problems that if left to fester may well destroy our civilization. We have developed a strong technology, which if left without proper understanding may well destroy our civilization.
A complete lack of critical thinking on your part here.
A person can easily understand that the use of traffic control lights can either improve or impede the flow of traffic through a city. They don't need to know how the individual lights get their electricty to function to understand the greater implication.
Quote:We can no longer afford the luxury of just intellectually coasting through life. We either become part of the solution or we remain part of the problem. We must become self-actualizing self-learners when our school daze are over.
Another misuse of the concept of "self-actualiztion" on your part here. Maybe some day you'll fiugure out what it really means.
Generally college or university time is spent becoming a specialist at some domain of knowledge that will facilitate getting a good job. Little effort is expended in becoming knowledgeable in other domains of knowledge besides a specialty. In college we learn more and more about less and less.
We must recognize that after our schooling is over we must begin to learn those things that are necessary for becoming good and happy citizens of a democracy.
Abraham Maslow defined a hierarchy of needs to be:
1) Biological and Physiological (water, food, shelter, air, sex, etc.)
2) Safety (security, law and order, stability, etc.)
3) Belonging and love (family, affection, community, etc.)
4) Esteem (self-esteem, independence, prestige, achievement, etc.)
5) Self-Actualization (self-fulfillment, personal growth, realizing personal potential, etc.)
Our schooling has prepared us to get a good job so that we can satisfy the first need but it has not taught us many other things related to fulfilling the other four needs. Our schools have taught us what to think but not how to think.
coberst wrote:hawkeye10 wrote:coberst wrote:
Have you checked on your unconscious life lately? How does one check on their unconscious life?
By examining our dreams, as well as the irrational choices we make. These are clues.
Have you made a strong effort to study your dreams? Do you know of a good book on such matters?
I don't think that we can comprehend our unconscious, but we can learn from it. when i think that I am OK with something that is changing in my life but find that I am regularly dreaming about it then I know that I am not fine with it. When I think that I want something in my life but find that I keep unconsciously sabotaging it, then I know that I don't want what I think that I want. I don't get down to the level of analysing my dreams though some people claim that you can plot the narrative of your dreams and draw conclusions from them.
I learned about the importance of dreams from Jung. I don't know what book to tell you about, I read Jung many years ago out of his Collective Works. Follow the link below, type in "dreams" as the key word to see which volumes.
http://www.dcdata.com/jung/cwsearch.htm
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