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Hingehead's music collection

 
 
hingehead
 
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Reply Wed 29 Aug, 2018 05:53 am
@izzythepush,
Got a couple HMHB tracks:
I Hate Nerys Hughes from the NME C86 compilation
Trumpton Riots from theIndie Scene 86 compilation
izzythepush
 
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Reply Wed 29 Aug, 2018 06:11 am
@hingehead,
If you're looking for something new, these blokes are all friends of mine, shared a house with the manager and went to more gigs than I'd care to mention.



There are other tracks on youtube put the quality is pretty grim.
panzade
 
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Reply Wed 29 Aug, 2018 07:26 am
Just found this thread.
Pretty fascinating.
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chai2
 
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Reply Wed 29 Aug, 2018 08:37 am
@hingehead,
Not meaning to be a buzzkill, I’m sincerely trying to understand this. If it brings you joy, and it obviously brings you great joy, that’s wonderful.

However, why do you collect music you’ve never listened to, and certainly never will, or heard it t only once? I mean I know it’s not like collecting artwork and keeping it locked away, since anyone can access the same music. It doesn’t cause you stress knowing you’ll never even hear many things you collect?

So I guess you have music playing all the time?
hingehead
 
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Reply Wed 29 Aug, 2018 04:46 pm
@chai2,
No offence taken Chai. I do listen to music all the time - virtually all of it is digitised and Windows Media Player is great at doing randoms. So I'm relying on serendipity to find great and/or interesting stuff. That stuff I 'label' so I can find again.

The main driver is a fear that there is a song out there that will give me an eargasm that I will never hear - so I hunt them out. That means downloading and listening to a lot of stuff (from every genre and any country). Fortunately I like listening to stuff I haven't heard before, I realise most people have a small group of things they love to listen to and new stuff is added after a rigorous entry procedure - somewhere along the line I lost that mode.

So I have a shipload of blogs I track through netvibes, and anytime someone namechecks something I don't know or have there or A2K, Twitter, Facebook, reviews et al - I check out, either through a download or facebook.

My main mode of filtering new stuff is to play 'unrated' items in WMP. Then I rate them:
5 star - eargasm
4 star - definitely want to hear again
3 star - not awful but will never be a 4 star
2 star - I do not need to hear this again
1 star - track quality dodgy, find another download or re-rip

The non-metadata cataloguing process is is weirder and changed a couple of years ago.

So I still add everything I own to the Access DB - but to keep track of the downloads (to avoid duplication) I started adding them to my discogs collection. Only the best of downloads is added to the Access DB (although there are only a few things my Access DB is better at than Discogs).

I'm using MP3Tag to quickly fill out and improve metadata via the discogs API, then customising it for my own purposes (like geolocation of artist, 'mood/theme', genre (once based on Allmusic now more like discogs).

So when I'm not 'random' listening I can easily queue, say, all 4 star rated acoustic ambient tracks from French artists since 1980.

So the plan is to listen to everything once, and the good stuff more than once. I think the cataloguing aspect is like a engaging hobby that produces something (unlike computer games) - I listen to random while I'm doing it, and I find it relaxing and gets my head out of 'work brain' without getting bored - and there's always the chance I might catch a salmon.

Pardon the waffle - but you made me think about what and why.



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hingehead
 
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Reply Wed 29 Aug, 2018 04:57 pm
@izzythepush,
Not bad at all.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Wed 29 Aug, 2018 05:14 pm
@hingehead,
Pretty good live as well. They broke up a while back, I still bump into some of the band, but the last time I saw the lead singer was at a Glastonbury festival when the Pixies were playing. He told me he'd spent the last month watching Apocalypse Now on a loop. And he really wanted to talk all about it.
hingehead
 
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Reply Wed 29 Aug, 2018 06:52 pm
@izzythepush,
http://gifimage.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/back-away-slowly-gif.gif
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chai2
 
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Reply Wed 29 Aug, 2018 07:39 pm
When you hear something, do you remember it? Like if someone said the name of music you heard a year or more ago, can you remember it all?

Do you ever listen to something half way through and stop it because you don’t like it, or a few seconds in? Or do you listen to it to the end?

If music isn’t playing do you feel anxious or some other negative emotion? Do you ever have to turn off the music so you can concentrate?

If you are outside in the middle of nature, do you want to hear music then? Or the natural sounds?

I probably have a lot more questions, so I hope you don’t mind. In fact, I find it equally curious no one else is wondering about similar stuff.

Do you play music while you sleep? Does your wife ever ask you to turn it off? Are there circumstances were you don’t want to listen to anything?



chai2
 
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Reply Wed 29 Aug, 2018 07:40 pm
@chai2,
You fascinate me with all this. I feel like one of us is an alien. Maybe both of us.
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hingehead
 
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Reply Wed 29 Aug, 2018 09:13 pm
@chai2,
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When you hear something, do you remember it? Like if someone said the name of music you heard a year or more ago, can you remember it all?

It depends, if it was particularly good or bad definitely, otherwise maybe a vague impression - sometimes not until I hear it again.
I'm deadly on being able to name that tune within the first bar for most of popular music in the last 50 years (although top 40 since mid 1990s is less than complete). At work I'm the go to guy for ' Who did , or what's, that song called that goes ....'

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Do you ever listen to something half way through and stop it because you don’t like it, or a few seconds in? Or do you listen to it to the end?


Almost always to the end (although there is some abstract noise drone that can try my patience)

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If music isn’t playing do you feel anxious or some other negative emotion? Do you ever have to turn off the music so you can concentrate?


I often don't have music playing. When we go overseas we don't take any with us. Rarely even play the radio in the hire car radio - too busy looking to see what's around the next corner maybe? When we first come back everything sounds much better!

So I don't think it's an addiction, per se.

When I walk, jog or garden solo I'm just as likely listening to a podcast. Mostly I listen at work - and it's an aid to concentration for me - I think it's a habit I picked up in the final years of high school when my parents bought me a little 3-in-one so I'd stay in my room and study rather than do it on the kitchen table where I could use their stereo - anyway it blocked out the rest of the neighbourhood having fun while I hit the books (high parent expectations, selective state school, first in family to go to university). My job revolves around computer based work and I have my own office - with an open plan work area adjacent. Colleagues know about the cataloguing random music thing and I get all sorts of requests - I let anyone name a theme, a time period - and of course there's birthday, farewell, bon voyage, christmas, halloween playlists too.


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If you are outside in the middle of nature, do you want to hear music then? Or the natural sounds?

Almost always nature - only music if I'm exercising in an environ I know too well.

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I probably have a lot more questions, so I hope you don’t mind. In fact, I find it equally curious no one else is wondering about similar stuff.

No I'm cool talking about myself - makes me think why/how I got so screwed up.

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Do you play music while you sleep? Does your wife ever ask you to turn it off? Are there circumstances were you don’t want to listen to anything?


If I'm on my own I always go to sleep listening to music. Mrs Hinge doesn't like that. When we're together being domestic I tend to let her control the music. She likes her stuff but is just as likely to have the TV going in the background so there's some noise (something I don't understand). Although I DJ if we're dining at Sea Temple Stratford (aka eating on the back deck, front porch or at the dining table with a bottle of wine and set table).

I don't like to listen to music when I'm on the phone :-). I probably sound obsessive, but I don't have to listen to music all the time, but if I'm on my own doing something it feels like I'm multitasking - and I might just here something apropos or spine shivering.
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chai2
 
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Reply Thu 30 Aug, 2018 08:40 am
After reading your post, I went googling and read a little about the range of anhedonics to hyper-hedonics. Mentioned several times were the chills, or shivers as you describe them occur for hyper-hedonics, even if just imagining music.

You are clearly in the latter group. Very Happy
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Thu 22 Nov, 2018 04:04 am
A couple of nights ago I went to see Hawklords, yes they're still going, along with Hawkwind. I had a really good time but was really impressed by the support. It's like drum and bass if drum and bass was good instead of being a pile of ****.

And they're local.

hingehead
 
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Reply Thu 22 Nov, 2018 07:18 am
@izzythepush,
That was pretty cool.

I've never understood the difference between Hawklords and Hawkwind - I thought it was some sort of contractual obligation thing, do you know?
hingehead
 
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Reply Thu 22 Nov, 2018 07:24 am
@chai2,
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Does your wife ever ask you to turn it off?

Just realised I didn't give the whole truth. She does occasionally tell me to 'turn off the wailing wall music' which is her catch all term for anything from Dead Can Dance to middle eastern, qawwali, bangra et bloody al (i.e. anything that strays into quartertones). To me that's like loving food and never trying anything umami.
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Thu 22 Nov, 2018 07:24 am
@hingehead,
It was, originally a name change because of contractual stuff. However, the band has had many members. Hawkwind is Dave Brock and his band. The Hawklord name is now used by Harvey Bainbridge who was in Hawklords so can use that name along with other ex members.

Then there's a long running dispute between Nik Turner and Dave Brock over the name Hawkwind. Dave Brock won but not after some pretty nasty things were said.

I think Nik Turner now uses the name Space Ritual.
hingehead
 
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Reply Thu 22 Nov, 2018 07:32 am
@izzythepush,
That makes a ton of sense. I loved the first Hawklords album - pretty much the last thing recorded by Rob Calvert I think.

It's weird - I was exposed to Hawkwind from like 1974 (courtesy of ex pat poms across the road) but it never grabbed me. Then in 79/80 the Jays picked Spirit Of The Age - which led me to Quark Strangeness and Charm - and from there I revisited the back catalogue (and much later the forward catalogue). My favourite pre-QST album is still Warriors On The Edge Of Time. I find stuff from the late 80s really interesting precisely because I haven't listened to it to death (like I did with my record collection up to 1985 before I lost my mind and bought and recorded as much as could (from record fairs, libraries, friends and garage sales), and then the internet - that really fucked me for in-depth listening for the most part.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Thu 22 Nov, 2018 07:41 am
@hingehead,
Both QST and Warrior are my two favourite albums. A lot of Hawklords stuff is Calvert, they play a lot of Captain Lockheed.



What I like about Bob Calvert is his individuality. He looked like this.

https://makeyourowntaste.files.wordpress.com/2013/08/gman2cy.jpg

But hung out with guys who looked this.

https://www.aural-innovations.com/robertcalvert/hawkwind/images/hw71xy.jpg
hightor
 
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Reply Thu 22 Nov, 2018 07:55 am
@izzythepush,
Quote:
He looked like this.

But hung out with guys who looked this.

I like him already.

Now I'll listen to his music.

izzythepush
 
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Reply Thu 22 Nov, 2018 11:25 am
@hightor,
You might want to read this first. It's a concept album, and knowing the concept helps.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captain_Lockheed_and_the_Starfighters
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