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Bi-Polar Bear wrote:

well the commercials suck but the product is amazing....

you mean "head on", right? 'cause I've tried christianity and it totally blows.

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You "tried" Christianity? It's not like buying clothes at a store, Echi. You don't try it on for size.

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Arella Mae wrote:

You "tried" Christianity? It's not like buying clothes at a store, Echi. You don't try it on for size.

Sure you do. Same applies for you. You tried it on, and it fit.

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I have heard a lot of people say they were once Christian. To my way of thinking, once a Christian always a Christian, but I certainly cannot dismiss anyone's experience.

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Arella Mae wrote:

I have heard a lot of people say they were once Christian. To my way of thinking, once a Christian always a Christian, but I certainly cannot dismiss anyone's experience.

I certainly gave Christianity a full go. I wasn't pressure to do it either. I did it of my own will, and I commited to it fully. End result, it felt wrong and despite me vocalizing my concerns, I was addressed as if there was something wrong with me.

It was clear that if I were to be a good Christian, I'd have to sacrifice my inquisitive nature. Free thought was not welcome.

I am a compassionate person, so I thought I would fit in with Christians. This was not the case. I was being conditioned to judge people who were different than me, and it disgusted me.

I understand both then and now that not every christian was the same, but it was obvious that it was not for me.

I tried out several beliefs, but the more I learned about life, the more I realized that religion doesn't have a place in my life. All the things it claims to offer I found elsewhere. I didin't have to be untrue to myself either.

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Diest, I am sorry that you had that kind of experience with Christianity. There are those that take the scripture, "we who are spiritual judge all things" to the extreme.

I don't judge people for being Christian or not. I do my best to remember we were all made in God's image and none of us knows who may end up Christian or not and I don't want my actions to cause anyone to turn away from God. Everyone should be treated civilly and with respect. And no, I haven't always had that viewpoint. I am very steadfast in my beliefs but I am a work in progress!

I really try to stick to that jude not lest ye be judged scripture.

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There are many different Christians and there are many religious Christian denominations and they are not all the same. It is unfortunate that some fly in the face of what Jesus taught and cause people to mistrust all Christians because of a few.

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Amen to that Intrepid.

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Diest TKO wrote:

I certainly gave Christianity a full go. I wasn't pressure to do it either. I did it of my own will, and I commited to it fully. End result, it felt wrong [...]

Exactly! Being a Christian meant that I had to compromise my deepest principles. I was expected to do things "just because the Bible says so". If I had a question I was often told either that I would find out after I die, or that it was a sin to ask in the first place. It really is a spiraling cycle of guilt, confusion, and torment. I was very young when I got out-- like 12 or 13. How in the world can a full-grown adult believe in this stuff? The only thing I can think of is that they are not full-grown adults-- they just look that way.

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It would be very interesting and maybe even enlightening to know to what religious affiliation those who found it distasteful enough to throw up their arms and leave belonged to. And I don't mean the broad and all encompassing term Christian.

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Intrepid wrote:

It would be very interesting and maybe even enlightening to know to what religious affiliation those who found it distasteful enough to throw up their arms and leave belonged to. And I don't mean the broad and all encompassing term Christian.

I was raised a Roman Catholic because of my mother. She has since converted to Southern Baptist, which was only a matter of time after she moved to East Texas. My dad's side of the family are Methodist.
In my experience, there are very few and minor differences among the Christian religions, besides decorations. They all boil down to "Because".

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Why was it only a matter of time after she moved to Texas? There are plenty of Catholic churches in Texas.

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Arella Mae wrote:

Why was it only a matter of time after she moved to Texas? There are plenty of Catholic churches in Texas.

You got that right, Miss Mae. There are more than plenty!

She moved from Houston to a small town in East Texas, which is very heavily Southern Baptist. There is one, maybe two, Catholic churches in her county, but they are all outcasts. She held out for a few years, but eventually gave in. Now her answer for everything is, "ask God".
["Okay, Mom...thanks anyway."]

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Intrepid wrote:

It would be very interesting and maybe even enlightening to know to what religious affiliation those who found it distasteful enough to throw up their arms and leave belonged to. And I don't mean the broad and all encompassing term Christian.

Within Christianity, I tried

Baptist
Catholicism
The Church or the Good Sheppard (independant, multi-denomination church)
Luthern
There was one more, but it's name escapes me.

For your data.

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Thanks for the reply. I am not among the group listed, so perhaps I have not experienced those kinds of things that turned you off.

I am somewhat familiar with some of them and, quite frankly, I was not impressed with some things.

Some, perhaps, give up too soon. Depends on what one is looking for I suppose.

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Intrepid wrote:

Thanks for the reply. I am not among the group listed, so perhaps I have not experienced those kinds of things that turned you off.

I am somewhat familiar with some of them and, quite frankly, I was not impressed with some things.

Some, perhaps, give up too soon. Depends on what one is looking for I suppose.

Is there any form of Christianity that encourages followers to explore their doubts about the Church?

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Diest TKO wrote:

Arella Mae wrote:
Diest,

Just what is it do you think is missing from the Bible?

I think that if people are going to evaluate the book as being a whole work and find truth in it etc that they should be exposed to all passeges that were intended to be in it, not just the ones that the roman church though were good.

I realize that the addition of these passeges/books might create continuity problems, but I think people have the right to know.

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Diest,

When the 66 books of the Bible were written , over a period of 1500 years, by over 40 men on three continents..........

.............do you seriously think that any of the authors wrote his book with an intention of 'getting it included in the Bible' , when such a thing as a Bible did not exist?

The books were handwritten on large cumbersome scrolls, published and handed down as individual works, not published under one cover.

The practice of combining books began late, and it was a loooooonnnnnngggg time before all 66 books were published together.

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Diest TKO wrote:

Intrepid wrote:
It would be very interesting and maybe even enlightening to know to what religious affiliation those who found it distasteful enough to throw up their arms and leave belonged to. And I don't mean the broad and all encompassing term Christian.

Within Christianity, I tried

Baptist
Catholicism
The Church or the Good Sheppard (independant, multi-denomination church)
Luthern
There was one more, but it's name escapes me.

For your data.

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The one I left out, I just remembered. It was Unity (United Unitarian Church). I don't think some people concider this a part of Christianity.

I resent the idea that "people give up too early" I think they are trying a lot harder than those who don't give anything a try.

How many Christians have tried Buddhism? How many decided it wasn't for them? Did they just give up too early? What about atheism? Deism? Wicca?

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echi wrote:

Intrepid wrote:
Thanks for the reply. I am not among the group listed, so perhaps I have not experienced those kinds of things that turned you off.

I am somewhat familiar with some of them and, quite frankly, I was not impressed with some things.

Some, perhaps, give up too soon. Depends on what one is looking for I suppose.

Is there any form of Christianity that encourages followers to explore their doubts about the Church?

The Bible does not command Christians to have faith in the Church.

What point are you trying to make?

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