Spiritual Awakening.

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Spiritual awakening.

Hi all.
Through this thread, I expect to debate about Spiritual Awakening.
Same of us have already, some of us not. And for those who are going right through, may this be of any help or entertaining at all.

So I read, that extreme suffering is usually the portal that takes you right through the spiritual awakening and its new level of consciousness

This is some really interesting stuff and the more I read about it, the more I enjoy and the more I feel like I understand things and reasons and the path of life.

Little by little,
I no longer fear.
I no longer cry.
It no longer hurts...
Little by little.

Overall, I think I have found something to ease my pain I went through some intense depression over the past 6 or 7 months and just as I learn more and more about my own being, I feel that the pain is going away I can finally sense peace of mind coming my way. Thank God!

It would be interesting if some a2kers could share their own experiences

Any takers?

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...What got me intrigued by a spiritual rely for my suffering was specially the transcendental experiences, rather than just a spark of curiosity.

I'm talking about out of body experiences, intuition, the sensation of an intense energy load over head and shoulders followed by physical relaxation, etc.

I don't know how open minded some of you may be, but I guess it would be okay to debate something like this on a2k.

"Conhece-te a ti mesmo, e conhecerá o Universo e os Deuses..."

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By spiritual awakening, do you mean the realization of God?

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I guess... acknowledging the existence of God is part of it, yes.

To me it goes a little beyond... whereas I am reading Allan Kardec and therefore a lot of the spiritualism doctrine answer some of my questions about the weird transcedental experiences except it still gives me a lot of room for doubting. (infinite possibilities...)

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I "believe?"... quite a few drugs can give you the same feeling and God could be one of em.

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According to what I have been learning, it's not he drug itself that would take someone into a soul travel (out of body experience) as rather the fact that you body slows down substantially on energy consumption, allowing your soul to travel.. just as if you are asleep...

I don't have these concepts down as well as I wish I did but I am reading and it sounds interesting. It's hard to believe... but as it says.. there's so much that human mind is still not able to understand.

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superjuly,

For those of us who have delved a little into this, "spirituality" generally implies transcendence of "self", which is seen as an illusory construction. If your concept of "existence" involves a "self" existing as a "creation of a god", I would suggest you might be on the wrong track. If on the other hand you have experienced "being part of a unity of creative consciousness" then that would make sense to me and several others on this forum.

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Hi Fresco,

I believe that "Spiritual Awakening" is a very known expression, but it is experienced in different ways by different people.

My thoughts might be a little confusing to other people as they are to me as well, so pardon if I don't express myself clearly enough.

What I mean by using this expression in particularly, is the point in life where you start to aknowledge your existence beyond the material world, through trancedental events such as out of body experiences, aknowledgement of reencarnation and thereof.

As I have mentioned, I don't follow the Spiritualism doctrine, but I have been reading a lot into Allan Kardec's material, who published many books about one's soul evolution's path through spiritual guidance...

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"Existence" of self, soul, or indeed thing is meaningless except " in relationship". This is the transcendental position of which I speak. I am not familiar with the Kardec material but if it does not recognise the essential relational aspect of "existence" I would personally discard it. In general spiritualism has little to do with spirituality.

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I have experienced that point in life where I have acknowledged my existence beyond the material world, but I haven't had any transcendental experiences, or out of body experiences, none of that.

There is more to life than a material existence, but you don't need to acknowledge that through out of body experience.

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A spiritual "feeling", a sensation of "floating", a feeling of "depression", a feeling of "exaltation", are as described.. Just a mental action brought on by a reality of the moment... Something that's conjured up in YOUR brain by YOU. Tanking drugs does the same thing without you conjuring it. The belief in a God is also conjured up... By you.

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Are you saying that we create our own reality? A feeling of depression is not entirely conjured up by my brain, something had to cause the brain to conjure such feelings. "A reality of the moment",

this feeling is draining, physically. It drains my efforts to try, to attempt, to try, to do something I believe is worth doing, that will bring a sense of achievment when it is done.

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i choose

i chose to be born, - to live or die,
Even the sex, that would be i;
i chose the race, from which to appear,
Also my wealth, my health and my fear.

i chose my trials and stumbling blocks,
And the legs i would use, in all of those walks;
i chose my sadness, my joy and my love,
i chose to serve and not be above.

i chose this life - with all of its dues,
And with each dawn, again i choose;
The experiences for me that wait ahead,
To be alive, or be claimed dead.

And of the future lives i've yet,
It is my choice that i begat;
All the things, however pleasin',
That shall befall me in those seasons.

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fresco wrote:

superjuly,

For those of us who have delved a little into this, "spirituality" generally implies transcendence of "self", which is seen as an illusory construction. If your concept of "existence" involves a "self" existing as a "creation of a god", I would suggest you might be on the wrong track. If on the other hand you have experienced "being part of a unity of creative consciousness" then that would make sense to me and several others on this forum.

Very well stated, fresco, and clearer than I could have expressed.

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coluber, fresco,

Whether God exists or not, I am still in doubt of that. I just fear not being in belief of such a thing and we do have to believe in something. Whatever it is, science has not yet explained it. You'd have to take it by your own experience.

That's what spiritual awakening is, really. For me it is a very vivid and real experience. I feel and I see things that make me realize that spirits are around us, although I understand that it might actually be something much deeper than this.

Brian Weiss, a very well known psychiatrist, published a few books on how his celtic mind was suddenly stunned when a patient of his started reveilling messages from spiritual masters in past life regression sessions and also made conections to details of his own life with information that she was never in contact with... this kind of things, plus my own "transcedental" experiences make me really wonder into this line of thinking.

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I just fear not being in belief of such a thing and we do have to believe in something.

All these words in bold simply dissipate from a valid transcendental/ meditational position.

I have nothing against authors earning a living by claiming "specialist knowledge of the spiritual world", Conan Doyle and Houdini were both taken in for a time by such spiritualist fervour in the early years of the last century. Significantly the hoped for "Master" of such realms, one J.Krishnamurti, who was meticulously groomed for the job, rejected the whole shooting match of all "beliefs"and instead became a significant advocate of "spirituality" in the self transcendent sense. My statement in italics above was a central theme of Krishamurti's invited address to the UN Assembly a few years ago.

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Ethmer, I agree that "I" have chosen everthing that happens to "me", but in this case i refer not to my little self, my illusory ego. I refer to the Self I share with you, my Big Self, to Nature, Reality, Brahma, whatever we call it. Little self could not have chosen to be born since it didn't exist yet--and, of course, it never did, nor does, nor will.
I assume that you share this "transcendental" perspective--otherwise the poem makes no sense.

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The "little self" "i" came into being during the expansion/division of God.

It is through reincarnation that the little self, "i", chooses the circumstances under which it incarnates in order to accomplish the goals that it alone sets.

After it has accomplished its goals it will eventually gravitate back into the Oneness of God.

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Much of that, Ethmer, sounds like orthodox versions of Buddhism, but I is not consistent with the Buddhism that I understand. In the latter version there is no i to accomplish any goals, only the illusion of 'i'. All is already, from the "beginning" one with "God." Or not.

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