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Clothes off for take-off - naked Germans take to air

 
 
Reply Wed 30 Jan, 2008 10:34 am
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Nudist flights ready for take-off

Jess Smee in Berlin
Wednesday January 30, 2008
The Guardian

A German travel agent has come up with the ultimate in no-frills flying - a charter flight for passengers who want to fly naked. Naturist holidays are particularly popular among east Germans, who like nothing better than to stretch out on a beach in the nude. "The flight can be enjoyed as God intended," said OssiUrlaub, a company specialising in selling to holidaymakers from the former east. "For the first time, passengers in Germany can fly completely in the nude."
FKK, which stands for Freikörperkultur (Free Body Culture), is a German movement which became widespread in the German Democratic Republic. Today most German beaches or lakes, east or west, have sections clearly labelled "FKK" or "textile beach" to avoid confusion.

Enrico Hess, head of OssiUrlaub, said his business plan was inspired by the enthusiasm for naturist holiday breaks back in the days of communism.

"FKK holidays were a popular way of spending the best weeks of the year. Now we want to make this freedom possible above the clouds."
Its plane will fly from the city of Erfurt to the Baltic island of Usedom, returning on the same day. Tickets cost €499 (£370). All passengers will travel naked but will only be allowed to get undressed aboard the flight, the company said. Pilots and cabin crew will remain clothed "for security reasons".
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Wed 30 Jan, 2008 10:47 am
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FKK in DDR

After the war, naturism didn't gain popularity in the capitalist west as it did in East Germany, where it took on more social significance. By the 1960s, it had become a mass movement, said historian Hans Bergemann, who in 2000 organized a touring exhibition in Germany on the FKK movement.

``FKK became so popular that in principle no one noticed whether people were naked or dressed,'' Weinreich said of people's casual attitude toward nudists.

FKK wasn't officially allowed in East Germany but was tolerated, said Kurt Fischer, head of the DFK German Naturist Federation. Nudism was an expression of the desire for freedom, he said.

``In the West, going naked was a personal decision,'' Fischer said. ``But in the East, it was a way of life.''

Source: Nein to Nudity: East German Naturists Blame West for Cover-Up


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In summer, naked flesh is no uncommon sight in German parks, pools and beaches. According to Weinreich, some 10 million Germans strip to the bare essentials at least once or twice during the hot and sweaty summer months.

The Germans are known to be quicker than their fellow Europeans at letting it all hang out -- a phenomenon that according to Weinreich lies in the history of European nudism, a movement that has its origins in 19th century Berlin.

Source: The Fight to Let it All Hang Out


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Germans have always been quicker than their European cousins to take their clothes off. But tempers are soaring on the beaches as west Germans complain that the east German desire to let it all hang out has gone too far. Ian Traynor reports on an age-old clash between freedom and order
... ... ...

Source: Cold war over sunshine strip


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At least since George L. Mosse's classic work The Crisis of German Ideology (1964), historians of Germany have seen the fin-de-siecle as a breeding ground for völkisch ideologues seeking national renewal through a rejection of modernity. Practitioners of the ever-expanding and innovative history of the body have focused on this period, seeing a new emphasis on the body amidst intensified calls for renewal. The nudist movement provides a particular case that combined interest in the body with a concern for the health of the Volk. This phenomenon has not yet received definitive historical treatment. Chad Ross provides this treatment, offering the first in-depth history in English of the German nudist movement.

Ross's history of nudism covers the period from roughly 1900 to 1950, crossing over the historical divides of the Kaiserreich, Great War, Weimar Republic and National Socialism. Ross argues that in these different political and historical contexts, nudism consistently advocated nudist practices as the means to restore health to the body, and to make Germany and the German Volk strong. Ross emphasizes the national nature of nudism as its most crucial attribute, thus associating it with the other contemporary calls for Lebensreform that sought a stronger Germany. While the reader leaves not entirely convinced of Ross's assessment of nudism's significance, the book offers an able account of the nudist movement in Germany.


Source: Book review: Chad Ross. Naked Germany: Health, Race, and the Nation. New York: Berg, 2005
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George
 
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Reply Wed 30 Jan, 2008 10:54 am
Does everything have to be in the upright position before takeoff?
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Wed 30 Jan, 2008 10:55 am
George wrote:
Does everything have to be in the upright position before takeoff?



According to an interview with the tour organiser, all is accepted as it is by nature.
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DrewDad
 
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Reply Wed 30 Jan, 2008 12:35 pm
They'll have to rename it the take-off strip and the landing dressed.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sat 2 Feb, 2008 02:10 pm
Finally, the BBC noticed it, too:

Take off and strip off

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http://i29.tinypic.com/156d7dg.jpg http://i27.tinypic.com/jikv48.jpg
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ebrown p
 
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Reply Sat 2 Feb, 2008 02:14 pm
That last picture was not exactly the image that came into my mind when I read the original article.
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CalamityJane
 
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Reply Sat 2 Feb, 2008 02:15 pm
I'm sorry - I have nothing against nudity, but I won't sit in a seat
where there is sweat and other bodily fluids left by other passengers.

There are people out there who need to be clothed for the the visual welfare
of others.
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gustavratzenhofer
 
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Reply Sat 2 Feb, 2008 02:17 pm
Nothing frightens me more than a naked German, with the possible exception of large dogs with angry looks.
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CalamityJane
 
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Reply Sat 2 Feb, 2008 02:18 pm
gustavratzenhofer wrote:
Nothing frightens me more than a naked German, with the possible exception of large dogs with angry looks.


Don't generalize, dear! Heidi Klum is German too!
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sat 2 Feb, 2008 02:19 pm
With great interest I notice that gustav writes his response after CJ's she wouldn't fly.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sat 2 Feb, 2008 02:19 pm
CalamityJane wrote:

Don't generalize, dear! Heidi Klum is German too!


Seat A24
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gustavratzenhofer
 
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Reply Sat 2 Feb, 2008 02:20 pm
Walter Hinteler wrote:
With great interest I notice that gustav writes his response after CJ's she wouldn't fly.


Say that again, Walter, but slower this time.
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hamburger
 
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Reply Sat 2 Feb, 2008 06:24 pm
a german NATUR PARK , as drawn by the great german artist and social critic HEINRICH ZILLE - probably around 1910 .

http://www.natureparktravel.com/berlin/flussfoto.jpg


HEINRICH ZILLE - HIS LIFE


some of his wonerful illustrations >
ZILLE ILLUSTRATIONS

many people looked at his ilustrations simply as being "humorous" , when in reality he was a social commentator trying to show how the "underdogs" of berlin had to live - often in abject poverty
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coldguitargod
 
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Reply Tue 12 Feb, 2008 11:01 am
eek
i dont have anything against naturist or that kind of thing... but sitting next to a 300lb hairy german guy whose sweating... and just the thought of every time he goes to scratch his head i get poked in the eye with his pit hair Shocked ... really REALLY freaks me out. knowing my luck id get seated next to a gay guy Exclamation lol. interesting idea tho... would suck if the plane crashed... what a scene O.O no one would be able to take it seriously.
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Foofie
 
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Reply Tue 12 Feb, 2008 10:51 pm
I don't think the nationality matters. But any naked person is an eyesore after the initial novelty, I believe.
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dagmaraka
 
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Reply Tue 12 Feb, 2008 11:13 pm
like CJ, i'd rather not sit naked where others sat naked.... i hope they're not leather seats....ugggggh.
it's also always so cold with that damn airconditioning, i can't imagine how is this more comfortable. i never understood the urge to jog naked, or work naked, or travel naked....but then, i never tried. some things i'll just happily live without even though we only have one short life to live
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Foofie
 
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Reply Tue 12 Feb, 2008 11:21 pm
dagmaraka wrote:
like CJ, i'd rather not sit naked where others sat naked.... i hope they're not leather seats....ugggggh.
it's also always so cold with that damn airconditioning, i can't imagine how is this more comfortable. i never understood the urge to jog naked, or work naked, or travel naked....but then, i never tried. some things i'll just happily live without even though we only have one short life to live


Fix your clock/watch; it's running fast. Lives are very long, since brains are slow.
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dagmaraka
 
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Reply Tue 12 Feb, 2008 11:22 pm
speaking for yourself, i'm sure.
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margo
 
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Reply Tue 12 Feb, 2008 11:27 pm
dagmaraka wrote:
like CJ, i'd rather not sit naked where others sat naked.... i hope they're not leather seats....ugggggh.
it's also always so cold with that damn airconditioning, i can't imagine how is this more comfortable. i never understood the urge to jog naked, or work naked, or travel naked....but then, i never tried. some things i'll just happily live without even though we only have one short life to live


swimming nekkid, on the other hand......
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