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Inclusive classrooms

 
 
littlek
 
Reply Fri 25 Jan, 2008 08:06 pm
According to my current professor, the inclusive classroom was first used in Australia and as the U.S. started to adopt the concept, Oz was abandoning it. If anyone knows that this is true or false, I'd love to know.

Inclusive classrooms are classrooms which teach to all learning abilities. Specifically that means that students with learning disabilities, behavior issues, autism, physical handicaps, etc are taught in classrooms with general population (those without major learning issues) students. The theory says this is good for all involved. In a nutshell, the special needs students are not ostracized and normal-range learners become empathetic and helpful people.

Many school districts have become inclusive. But, the meaning of this program seems to differ from town to town. Some schools expect all students to be in the general ed. classroom 90% of the time, some 50% of the time (the rest of the time being in pull-out programs). Some schools have an even spread of special needs students in all classrooms at each grade level, some collect them into a couple classrooms at each grade level. Pull-out programs include specialized instruction in academics, social behavior, and occupational therapy (for example).

The problem is that the special learning rooms were abandoned. The trained staff were reduced and aids (like me) were pulled in. Aids are cheaper than spec. ed. instructors. Aids have far less training.

Sometimes students need more than this. They aren't being educated well. They are being maintained. They might even be disrupting learning for the rest of the class. There is no longer any quiet, constructive place for them to be taken when they need a break. Currently, I am shuffling between the OT room, the conference room, the gym, etc looking for a place for my student to unwind. Sometimes we never find the place and make do with a walk-about. Which doesn't really make do at all.

What is the solution? More money to support both in-class aids and structured special-needs learning centers? More money to hire specialized, trained, special education aids to assist full-time in class as a 1:1? Is the solution to go back to special ed schools, separate from the general population?

Or am I missing something?
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sozobe
 
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Reply Fri 25 Jan, 2008 08:13 pm
Whoo yeah.

I decided not to go into teaching for several reasons, but ducking this question was one of them.

I have strong opinions when it comes to deaf kids whose only disability is deafness. I think I have pretty strong feelings when it comes to physical disabilities like wheelchairs. For most everyone else, it's just so complicated.

(Would like to come back to this later.)
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littlek
 
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Reply Fri 25 Jan, 2008 08:27 pm
I think the problem I am seeing is not the straight up learning disabilities or physical disabilities. It's the behavior disabilities. Sometimes they all blend together. But, the behavior prevents that one child from being able to attend and may also prevent others from being able to as well.
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Miller
 
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Reply Fri 25 Jan, 2008 10:07 pm
I was in an inclusive High School in Chicago when I was a teen. One of the kids tried to set another student on fire with a Bunsen Burner, one day.

Cool
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littlek
 
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Reply Sat 26 Jan, 2008 08:09 pm
Was it a special needs student?
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dlowan
 
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Reply Sat 26 Jan, 2008 08:36 pm
Re: Inclusive classrooms
littlek wrote:
According to my current professor, the inclusive classroom was first used in Australia and as the U.S. started to adopt the concept, Oz was abandoning it. If anyone knows that this is true or false, I'd love to know.

Inclusive classrooms are classrooms which teach to all learning abilities. Specifically that means that students with learning disabilities, behavior issues, autism, physical handicaps, etc are taught in classrooms with general population (those without major learning issues) students. The theory says this is good for all involved. In a nutshell, the special needs students are not ostracized and normal-range learners become empathetic and helpful people.

Many school districts have become inclusive. But, the meaning of this program seems to differ from town to town. Some schools expect all students to be in the general ed. classroom 90% of the time, some 50% of the time (the rest of the time being in pull-out programs). Some schools have an even spread of special needs students in all classrooms at each grade level, some collect them into a couple classrooms at each grade level. Pull-out programs include specialized instruction in academics, social behavior, and occupational therapy (for example).

The problem is that the special learning rooms were abandoned. The trained staff were reduced and aids (like me) were pulled in. Aids are cheaper than spec. ed. instructors. Aids have far less training.

Sometimes students need more than this. They aren't being educated well. They are being maintained. They might even be disrupting learning for the rest of the class. There is no longer any quiet, constructive place for them to be taken when they need a break. Currently, I am shuffling between the OT room, the conference room, the gym, etc looking for a place for my student to unwind. Sometimes we never find the place and make do with a walk-about. Which doesn't really make do at all.

What is the solution? More money to support both in-class aids and structured special-needs learning centers? More money to hire specialized, trained, special education aids to assist full-time in class as a 1:1? Is the solution to go back to special ed schools, separate from the general population?

Or am I missing something?





At least where I am, we don't "mainstream" (as we call it) everyone...there are still some "special classes" for kids with real intellectual problems, or other issuers which mean they just can't function in an ordinary class...and the odd "special school"...I think these are on sites with ordinary schools in the main, now. (Don't take me as gospel....I work a lot with schools, but I make no claim to have the same knowledge as someone whose job is in education)


Sigh...I'm damned if I know the answer.


We are certainly at least as badly resourced as you guys.....


I agree that, unless properly supported, these kids can simply make education impossible for everyone, and they aren't leasrning a damn thing either.

I know that the kids with severe behavioural/emotional problems I see, (generally the sort I am working with) we have to work out a whole plan for each one....whether the child has a calm down place in the classroom, whether they can be trusted to cool down in the yard (some just go for a run, and will come back), whether we need an early classroom evacuation (complete with a parent wrangling plan!).


And the support is, as you experience, generally far from enough.


I spend heaps of time trying to teach school staff all about management techniques for traumatised kids (fortunately, there are now lots of us doing this...including a whole on-line training program developed for teachers, which most of them don't use...!)



I think it would help if education departments stopped being so much prey to the ideology of the moment (currently a mainstreaming one) and became freed up to be able to evaluate each child and THEIR needs and possibilities, and which milieu is best for them (which changes......I have one kid whom we all thought had a severe intellectual disability, though she wa sbehaviourally untestable, and who went into a special class....with lots of work she has come along in leaps and bounds, and is clearly far less disabled than we thought.....she is ALMOST at mainstreaming level now...and has been lucky enough to be placed at a school where she can have both, as we see how she goes).


We all know part of the "ideology" is cost-cutting, but the pressure of the ideology du jour (at least here) is that it frequently gets adopted so strongly by those who wish to climb the ladder (eg Principals) that those teachers who have kids that simply can't be managed with the existing supports get made to feel inadequate, and this dynamic also means those of us trying to support people with these kids cop a lot of rage fuelled by stress and fear.


Not that I do not think mainstreaming can be fasbulous...for kids with educational problems and for kids without....hopefully we really will have a generation far mor einclusive and less prejudiced....but not where a little munchkin with problems has destroyed a class, and possibly really hurt other kids.


Sigh again.


Kind of reminds me of a munchkin version of the horrors and benefits of de-institutionalization in adult mental health.




Let's hope Msolga gets here soon!!!!



Oh...I don't think it's actually being ABANDONED here.....
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dadpad
 
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Reply Sat 26 Jan, 2008 10:02 pm
mainstreaming of intellectually disabled children is the only viable alternative for rural parents.

Often it is the only respite care parents can get. Variouse systems have been tried Part time mainstream, part time specialist teacher . Some classes/activities are suitable for disabled children, some are not (pullout).
Aides are now a normal part of mainstream schools. often these aides (especially in rural areas) are untrained or undergo training as part of the job. Employment of Aides is determined by assesment of the child needs.


I think from what I have seen, dlowans suggestion of horses for courses seems to have evolved naturally from the initial mainstreaming push.
A plan is worked out that is mutually satisfying and appropriate for teachers, schools, parents, child and other students often by trial and error.

Private and Church run schools rarely have special needs children (he says cynically).
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dlowan
 
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Reply Sat 26 Jan, 2008 10:09 pm
dadpad wrote:
mainstreaming of intellectually disabled children is the only viable alternative for rural parents.

Often it is the only respite care parents can get. Variouse systems have been tried Part time mainstream, part time specialist teacher . Some classes/activities are suitable for disabled children, some are not (pullout).
Aides are now a normal part of mainstream schools. often these aides (especially in rural areas) are untrained or undergo training as part of the job. Employment of Aides is determined by assesment of the child needs.


I think from what I have seen, dlowans suggestion of horses for courses seems to have evolved naturally from the initial mainstreaming push.
A plan is worked out that is mutually satisfying and appropriate for teachers, schools, parents, child and other students often by trial and error.

Private and Church run schools rarely have special needs children (he says cynically).



I think that is truish...and partly because they have no access to a lot of the support systems that are available to state schools. That is a decision that seems mean...but the state resources are woefully inadequate, anyway...and private schools alreeady get public money. Sigh.

I have worked with private schools on some pretty out there kids, whom they have shown great dedication to...but, since the private schools CAN get rid of the real toughies, they do....and they also are subject to intense parent community pressure with about some kids.
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squinney
 
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Reply Sat 26 Jan, 2008 10:38 pm
I was in college studying special ed / behavior disorders in the early 80's. At that time mainstreaming was a fairly new concept. So, by now the kinks should have been worked out.

As far as physical limitations, of course there is no reason to segregate. With behavior problems I have no apprehension putting them in a separate room with a teacher and aide fully trained.

As far as I understand it, the key is not mainstreaming for the purpose of not stigmatizing a less than perfect student. The key to the laws that govern are "least restrictive environment." If a student needs a self contained class he/she must be placed in a self contained class. If the school doesn't have one, the parents have ways to ensure that the public school provides the right learning environment. So, it works both ways. You may have to fight for a child to be placed in reg. pop. or you may have to fight to have them in semi or complete self contained.
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gustavratzenhofer
 
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Reply Sat 26 Jan, 2008 10:49 pm
littlek wrote:
The problem is that the special learning rooms were abandoned. The trained staff were reduced and aids (like me) were pulled in. Aids are cheaper than spec. ed. instructors. Aids have far less training.


A microcosm of what is happening to the country.
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littlek
 
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Reply Sun 27 Jan, 2008 12:37 am
squinney wrote:
by now the kinks should have been worked out.



They are not.
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squinney
 
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Reply Sun 27 Jan, 2008 12:11 pm
And, that sucks for the kids and teachers and aides and parents...

My step-mom is the only spec. ed. teacher at small rural school that serves k-12 all in one building. Her first year (2005?) she had 50 kids on IEP's. Any given hour of the day she had a 1st grader working on math, a 5th grader working on spelling, a high schooler working on... I don't know how she got through the first year and stayed with it, but she loves it and she really fights for the kids.
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littlek
 
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Reply Wed 30 Jan, 2008 09:16 pm
Good for your step-mom!
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