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The truth about black holes

 
 
Reply Mon 14 Jan, 2008 10:46 am
Basic reality: There ain't no such ****ing thing as a "black hole":

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=wkq3oUXUrfQ


A black hole, as the video describes, is basically a necessity only to those who erroneously insist on believing that gravity holds galaxies together; nobody else needs them.
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contrex
 
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Reply Mon 14 Jan, 2008 01:56 pm
What nutty rubbish are you spouting now?
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Francis
 
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Reply Mon 14 Jan, 2008 01:58 pm
Re: The truth about black holes
gungasnake wrote:
Basic reality: There ain't no such ****ing thing as a "black hole"


Not even the ones with hair around?
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FreeDuck
 
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Reply Mon 14 Jan, 2008 02:03 pm
Pshaw. Everyone knows galaxies are held together with super glue and duct tape.
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farmerman
 
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Reply Mon 14 Jan, 2008 02:32 pm
THE CREATION EXPLAINED SOME BRIT
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ebrown p
 
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Reply Mon 14 Jan, 2008 03:13 pm
Arrg, me maties,

Galaxies are held together by His noodly appendages.

Ramen.
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Brandon9000
 
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Reply Wed 16 Jan, 2008 11:00 pm
I'm afraid you don't know what you're talking about. In 1916 Karl Schwarzschild noticed black holes in certain solutions of the General Relativity field equations. They exist if General Relativity is correct. This has nothing whatever to do with someone wanting them to exist.
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rosborne979
 
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Reply Wed 16 Jan, 2008 11:03 pm
Re: The truth about black holes
gungasnake wrote:
Basic reality: There ain't no such ****ing thing as a "black hole":

But I like Black Holes, they make so much ****ing sense.

Event Horizons make sense, accretion disks make sense, galactic cores make sense, even the basic core physics of the system just make sense. And now we have to replace the whole theory with poof the magic plasma? I don't think so.

We would have a bigger mystery on our hands if Black Holes didn't exist, because then we would have to explain why, and we couldn't do it.
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gungasnake
 
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Reply Wed 16 Jan, 2008 11:56 pm
Brandon9000 wrote:
They exist if General Relativity is correct. .....


It isn't. These are simply the kinds of things which Marcelus Wallis referred to as cold, hard, mother ****ing facts of life.
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Chumly
 
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Reply Thu 17 Jan, 2008 12:06 am
gungasnake you're having a senior Event horizon moment!
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Brandon9000
 
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Reply Thu 17 Jan, 2008 12:36 pm
gungasnake wrote:
Brandon9000 wrote:
They exist if General Relativity is correct. .....


It isn't. These are simply the kinds of things which Marcelus Wallis referred to as cold, hard, mother ****ing facts of life.

Would you care to present some evidence that General Relativity is not correct?
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InfraBlue
 
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Reply Thu 17 Jan, 2008 08:22 pm
gunga wrote:
These are simply the kinds of things which Marcelus Wallis referred to as cold, hard, mother ****ing facts of life.


This sums up the ID movement's basic stand on the origins of the universe and the origins of life.

This is a variation of the explanation for the color of the sky being blue, "cause God made it that way."

There is no need to expend anymore mental and intellectual effort on the subjects.

Let's go get drunk.
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Chumly
 
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Reply Thu 17 Jan, 2008 08:28 pm
I thought he said black ho's.......
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littlek
 
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Reply Thu 17 Jan, 2008 08:38 pm
farmerman wrote:
THE CREATION EXPLAINED SOME BRIT


Ha! Not just some Brit. I've never seen Ricky Gervais so funny!
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parados
 
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Reply Thu 17 Jan, 2008 09:28 pm
If there is no such thing as black holes then how can we have pictures like this of black holes eating white arrows?

http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/image/0402/bhstar_chandra_big.jpg
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NickFun
 
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Reply Thu 17 Jan, 2008 11:58 pm
No black holes? What color are they then?
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OCCOM BILL
 
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Reply Fri 18 Jan, 2008 12:31 am
Whatever you do, Gunga, don't google for a quasar called OJ287.

Otherwise you'll have to explain just what that object 100 million times more massive than our sun is... and what the hell could it be orbiting that's 3.5 billion times more massive than our sun? Shocked I'd say those objects are a little on the large side to be a planet and moon.
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gungasnake
 
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Reply Fri 18 Jan, 2008 08:10 am
I did notice one mistake in the presentation...

Electromagnetic forces are said to be 10 - 39 times more powerful than gravity; what the author clearly meant to say was 10 - 39 orders of magnitude more powerful.
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rosborne979
 
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Reply Fri 18 Jan, 2008 08:48 am
gungasnake wrote:
I did notice one mistake in the presentation...

Electromagnetic forces are said to be 10 - 39 times more powerful than gravity; what the author clearly meant to say was 10 - 39 orders of magnitude more powerful.

What does the author mean by "more powerful than"? How is he comparing the two forces in relation to "power"?

Electromagnetic forces can be dominant at atomic levels but irrelevant at galactic distances, while gravity has infinite range.

I noticed one mistake in the presentation as well... it was presented as fact rather than fiction.
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Fri 18 Jan, 2008 09:06 am
We have a black hole right here in Michigan. It's called Detroit.
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