OUTRAGE OVER WHALING ... #2 <cont>

Many of my and numerous others' threads about serious issues?

If it's not a blood sport, it's a pain.

I am serious about thinking that JTT, for instance, just wants to bait you. He clearly doesn't give a fabulous flying **** about conservation.

Dys thinks it's some sort of Bircher plot.

Would either of them bother with a serious thread about the topic?

I doubt it.

A bunch would read and be fascinated, but not comment.

A few would make it a bun-fight as usual.

And it would die. I am tired of things that I find interesting that just die.

Rob tried to make this thread a genuine exchange of views, and it was enormously exciting to me, because I learned heaps, and it made me really think about the issues.

But that kind of turned to custard for reasons that I can well understand and empathise with.

And why not let serious threads die?

I think we all feel kind of powerless and hopeless about the huge issues facing the planet.

It's too hard.

What do you think?

.. & I guess only talk about stuff like smooth or crunchy peanut butter, which don't offend anyone at all? Sigh

Ill be here , maybe with nothing of value, but with an appropriate amount of passion about a subject that I see very closely in the Bay of Fundy. Here we hve whales being slaughtered by WSI's (Whale/Ship Interactions).We have Minkes being sliced up like pizzas in the ship channels.

In fairness, ladies, i brought up fishing, because i see the exploitation of pelagic wild species in a cavalier fashion as being a part of an irresponsible attitude, the more reprehensible since there are ample, managed livestock resources by land.

I won't bring it up again, and my apologies to Miss Olga.

As I said, over-fishing is a digression on this thread, and I think JTT has just brought it up to try to browbeat Msolga.

I'll not be drawn into discussing it on this whaling thread again.

Well, boats get seized and destroyed and catches are impounded, and nobody has protested that that is done illegally, so I assume that the countries poaching fish take it as a fair cop.

I think the Japanese are to be taken to court over the enormous amount they have taken illegally, so I suppose that will be adjudicated.


By the way......these quotas are having a truly devastating effect on loval fisherfolk.

It was announced today that Australia's last tuna cannery is closing. That's in the local town of Port Lincoln, which is now facing economic ruin.


Australia is (gasp) operationalising tuna quotas set by a (gasp again) international body to which it belongs, and which has reduced the allowed catch for us by 25% in an attempt to regain sustainable tuna stocks.

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I am serious about thinking that JTT, for instance, just wants to bait you. He clearly doesn't give a fabulous flying **** about conservation.

As far as JTT's assertions about a groundless case, I think that the Rudd Administartion should concentrate on the negotiations with the spectre of legal action as a final resort. I dont think, as JTT wants you to believe, that Rudd is gonna blab out the points on a case against whaling. The JApanese have been whaling under all sorts of false pretenses and have tried to "Stuff" the IWC with non whaling "vassal" members who Japan could count on a vote in their favor.

I get a kick out of the blind eye that the pro whaling supporters cast on Japan in favor of "free trade"

Anybody claiming whaling to be part of their culture needs to GET a culture.

Why hasn't Rudd, and Howard before him, laid out these issues? Why do something honest when you can simply appeal to sentiment and really get people going.

Now that's really rich, Farmer, coming from the "scientist".