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I never said there would be anarchy.

I asked how it would be prevented without religion. That's all I asked and the failure to answer it demonstrates a fear. Stupid jibes notwithstanding.

We will have to hope that this crew on here are not providing the regulations. By heck- that would be some mess.

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spendius wrote:

Well-- you either get something else to keep them in line or they run amok.

Which do you prefer and if it is the something else would you kindly explain what and how it is enforced. If you can't you are arguing for anarchy.

Who are "they" exactly? I have been an atheist since the age of 14, (41 years ago) and I have neither "run amok" nor have I become an anarchist.

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Only proves the statement 'You dont needa God to be part ofa movement, but you do need a devil"

Please wake me when the locusts and the pestilence starts. I always miss the good pestilence.
Course, I do have this cat sittin next to me, but I just use her for minor spells and incantations, and then only if I give her some kibbles.

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contrex wrote-

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Who are "they" exactly?

The "them" who are being kept in line that map mentioned in the post I replied to. It's about 4 pages back.

No answers yet I see. But I'm not expecting any because I know you haven't one. Telling us how long you have been an atheist or about playing with the cat is the best we can hope for by the look of it,

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spendius wrote:

I never said there would be anarchy.

I asked how it would be prevented without religion. That's all I asked and the failure to answer it demonstrates a fear. Stupid jibes notwithstanding.

We will have to hope that this crew on here are not providing the regulations. By heck- that would be some mess.

They same way it is now. Religion never prevented anarchy, religion is an infection in serious need of a cure. religion has killed more people than the black plague

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Religion bestows emotional security to the believers while, at the very same time, they are being conned by the very same priesthood. What a scam, the only losers are the faithful, and they are continually admonished to never ask the questions dangerous to the tenure of the priests.

Or, in more plain language of the US midwest'We have a God who gave us a brain , then he forbids us to use it"

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Oh no He doesn't.

You just have to get elected.

Don't tell me you have never been elected fm and frustration has set in.

The pub is full of blokes like that.

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spendius wrote:

I never said there would be anarchy.

I asked how it would be prevented without religion. That's all I asked and the failure to answer it demonstrates a fear. Stupid jibes notwithstanding.

Well, anarchy isn't exactly prevented as it is. Sure nations have governments and laws that most people of those countries abide by, serving to create some kind of order. But between nations there is no supreme order. There is no clear voice, no international law which all nations abide by. There are laws, but all countries do not abide by them, and most find ways to ignore them to do what they want anyway. So if we look at the entire earth as one nation, that nation is in a state of anarchy.

Also, another fact is that we do not have peace and order because there is religion to steer us straight. There is religion because the desire for peace and order is within us, and of this desire religion is but one expression. Trouble is that it has been abused in the name of selfish needs and wants for so long that I do not know if it can serve any ends within the community.
Religion is a matter of personal growth or search. It is between a man and his quest for a spiritual understanding. As soon as it goes beyond the individual it becomes subjective opinion and belief that doesn't truly help anybody.

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There is no supreme order because of the lack of the adherence to laws... man cannot live without laws... religion contitutes laws whereby peace and happiness may be attained, it is by deciding not to follow religion and thereby laws that results in lack of order.

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That's an outrageous claim Janice.
Even nazism doesn't come close when it comes to the sheer number of people tortured and killed in the name of christianity. People who just went about their day, minding their own business until church officials decided that they should recieve christ. About a thousand years ago that happened here in Norway, and the choice was simple. Forswear the pagan gods or get your head split and your brains spilled. Even today children are taught about how our ancient ancestors were babtised in blood, as the phrase goes.
All this was done by people who decided to follow religion.

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You have clearly stated my intention in this post...

The Catholics are responsible for the spilled blood of millions of innocent souls during the Dark Ages... These are not Christians! They used force to bring people to adhere to MAN MADE doctrines and laws, the Bible teaches that God does not force, He knocks on the door of our hearts, if we accept He will come in, if not then He will pass us by...

The issue here that I am trying to wage is the fact that when manmade Church and State unite giving it civil power to inflict its satanic abuses upon innocent people catastrophe and blood shed results... THIS COULD HAPPEN AGAIN

This is strongly related to the New World Order and the Sunday law, rather forceful obedience to manmade laws, that if not adhered to will result in the loss of freedom of rights. This is not farfetched, it is already being discussed in the government as a means to promote "peace". But how can it when it's not even in the Bible??? Force is manmade instigated by Satan. Freedom is a God given choice, any system inflicting force is not a system of God.

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These are not Christians! They used force to bring people to adhere to MAN MADE doctrines and laws, the Bible teaches that God does not force,

These christians would disagree.
And are you saying that the bible is not man made doctrine and law?

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any system inflicting force is not a system of God.

The sun can kill you if you are not careful. So can gravity or water, just to name some systems inflicting force. But these forces are blameless because they only do what they are supposed to do, right? In a way it is cruelty born of ignorane, since these forces possess no mind to know right from wrong.
But religious people who kill in the name of their god also do so out of ignorance. Their faith has dimmed their wits, and they think they are doing god's work. Their religion doesn't inspire them to think about their actions and see the error of their ways. Their religion justifies their actions.

I am all for peace and harmony, but as I see it, religion is one of the major obstacles towards them. God is a mental illness, and people cling to it for the same reason as some people use drugs. They cannot handle reality.

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Here, here, hear... without a tear..without fear... I do adhere... it is, so clear... through my ear.

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What is a Christian? A person who follows Christ. Look at the life of Christ... He possessed no such record of such crewl actions towards anyone. They were claiming to follow Christ and His teachings, but their actions proved the opposite. They were slaves to their own selfish motives and zealous for their own self-glory which pushed them to the brink of zero human sympathy to maintain it. The life of Christ was one of pure selflessness absorbed in serving others and honoring His Father. Who were they following?? Those persecuted people just wanted to read their Bibles. Are you saying that the Church did not know they were doing evil? If they actually read the Bible themselves they would have seen with every martyr they tortured and killed and whose blood they spilled stamped with their own condemnation.

The evil inflicted on the martyrs of the Dark Ages has never been seen in the history of the world and has claimed the darkest blot on humanity.

Religion is not responsible for such uncensored cruelty. It is the result of manmade doctrines and traditions that have taken such firm hold and flattered the pomp and splendor of the Catholic Church. Look in their books and writings you will find little of the Bible and scores of their own teachings. There is no religion there, they have taken the name and done away with the truth. Their actions are self evident of their true beliefs.

What says this won't happen again? All they need is a little civil power...

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You say that a christian is a person who follows christ. In my experience a christian is a person who hides behind christ.

And the way I see it, the dark ages themselves were something inflicted upon man by christianity. Man reverted from seeking truth and enlightenment to believing in insubstantial myths forced on the world by the church.

You say that religion is not responsible for uncensored cruelty. But christianity is in itself a horrible cruelty inflicted on an evolving creature, causing it to stop evolving.

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Those persecuted people just wanted to read their Bibles.

What about those persecuted people who didn't want to read the bible? They were slaughtered by those who thought that they should read the bible. And don't defend your book by saying that these people didn't understand it, because if it weren't for the tyrrany of these people it is likely that we wouldn't have christianity today as anything more than a footnote in history.

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Cyracuz wrote:

You say that a christian is a person who follows christ. In my experience a christian is a person who hides behind christ.

Provactive.
Profound.

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Janice911 wrote:

The Catholics are responsible for the spilled blood of millions of innocent souls during the Dark Ages...

And the Protestants never killed anyone so they're "Christian" Rolling Eyes

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Janice911 wrote:

You have clearly stated my intention in this post...

The Catholics are responsible for the spilled blood of millions of innocent souls during the Dark Ages... These are not Christians! They used force to bring people to adhere to MAN MADE doctrines and laws, the Bible teaches that God does not force, He knocks on the door of our hearts, if we accept He will come in, if not then He will pass us by...

The issue here that I am trying to wage is the fact that when manmade Church and State unite giving it civil power to inflict its satanic abuses upon innocent people catastrophe and blood shed results... THIS COULD HAPPEN AGAIN

This is strongly related to the New World Order and the Sunday law, rather forceful obedience to manmade laws, that if not adhered to will result in the loss of freedom of rights. This is not farfetched, it is already being discussed in the government as a means to promote "peace". But how can it when it's not even in the Bible??? Force is manmade instigated by Satan. Freedom is a God given choice, any system inflicting force is not a system of God.

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Well, turns out they do speak norwegian in Hell. (sorry, very off-topic)

Hell

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Haha..
You're right. There is a place callede Hell up here Smile

It's where we gather to drink our mead and get away from the 30% we couldn't save...

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