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Down Under Doesn't Discriminate? You have to be kidding.

 
 
cjhsa
 
Reply Mon 19 Nov, 2007 07:33 pm
Here in the States we are being told by the international community that we should accept illegal aliens, yet, those big mouthed countries won't even allow legal immigration for reasons beyond the pale. Talk about discrimination. I could understand if they had a communicable disease, but being overweight? You have go be kidding.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/11/17/wfat117.xml

A British man who moved to New Zealand has been told by officials that his wife is too fat to join him.

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Richie Trezise, 35, a rugby-playing Welshman, lost weight to gain entry to New Zealand after initially being rejected for being overweight and a potential burden on the health care system.


Richie and Rowan Trezise have been battling to shed pounds


His wife, Rowan, 33, a photographer, has been battling for months to shed the pounds so they can be reunited and live Down Under but has so far been unable to overcome New Zealand's weight regulations.

Mr Trezise, who moved to Auckland in September after shedding two inches from his waist on a crash diet, said that if his wife was not allowed to come out by Christmas they would abandon the idea of emigrating.

His employer-backed skills visa was initially rejected by immigration officials when they discovered that his body mass index, or BMI, was 42, making him morbidly obese under New Zealand regulations.

BMI measures a person's weight in relation to their height. Anything over 25 is regarded as overweight, and 30 or above is obese.

Mr Trezise, a submarine cable specialist and a former soldier, said: "My doctor laughed at me. He said he'd never seen anything more ridiculous in his whole life. He said not every overweight person is unhealthy or unfit.

"The idea was that we were going to change our lifestyle totally and get outdoors and on mountain bikes and all sorts of activities."

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The couple, who both lived in Barry, Wales, were all set for a new life after Mr Trezise was headhunted by New Zealand's Telecom.

On her website, Mrs Trezise said earlier in the year: "We are fed up with life in the UK and moving to New Zealand. Auckland here we come!", but her entries end without mention of her difficulties in the face of immigration law.

Robyn Toomath, a spokesman for Fight the Obesity Epidemic and an endocrinologist, said the BMI limit was valid in the vast majority of people.

She said she was opposed to obese people being stigmatised. "However, the immigration department's focus is different," she said. "It cannot afford to import people into the country who are going to be a significant drain on our health resources.

"You can see the logic in assessing if there is a significant health cost associated with this individual and that would be a reason for them not coming in."

New Zealand is critically short of skilled workers, and many large firms are intensively recruiting in Britain.

Mr Trezise was recruited to supervise the Southern Cross Cable, which links New Zealand with Australia and the west coast of the United States. He is one of only four highly qualified specialist technicians working on the improvement of the cable.

The New Zealand Immigration Service said it did not know how many people were denied entry to the country because of high BMI readings.

However, comments posted on the Emigrate New Zealand website reveal that many people have been turned down after medical tests revealed that they were obese.

Mr Trezise has private health care in New Zealand and his employer, Telecom, has a gym membership scheme.

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Mame
 
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Reply Mon 19 Nov, 2007 07:39 pm
Well, who said they didn't discriminate?
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Mon 19 Nov, 2007 07:46 pm
I'd like to take the ADA and ship it down under. Plus AA, Jesse Jerkson, Al Notsosharpton, and the Kennedy clan.
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Mon 19 Nov, 2007 08:11 pm
They sure seem to be overly infatuated with whales down in that part of the world.
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Tue 20 Nov, 2007 05:35 pm
Political correctness run amok.

I pray for Oz and NZ, hopefully they right their ship before it's too late. Indonesia is at you doorstep. And I bet they eat whale.
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solipsister
 
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Reply Tue 20 Nov, 2007 06:39 pm
Arrrggghh (me hearties), I may be one-eyed but with a BMI of 42 there's no problem hitting your head in the submarine, only squeezing thru the hatches. They say she is "too fat to join him", but can "morbid obesity" be "reunited" with his significant other?
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Tue 20 Nov, 2007 06:41 pm
Is that the "Blackness Malefactor Index" of which you speak?

Just curious.
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solipsister
 
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Reply Tue 20 Nov, 2007 06:50 pm
Or will his Body Mass Index undersea cable laying skills lay waist to the hippocracy?

Dark days indeed.
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Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Thu 22 Nov, 2007 12:30 am
People in glass houses should not throw stones, but how many glass houses can you find?

Obviously, we discriminate many times in each and every day of our lives.
It would be fairly tough to live for long if we did not.

Reasoned discrimination is not, despite the caterwauling of the Tolerance Gang, a bad thing. Irrational discrimination can be, as it is likely to hurt the discriminator as much as that which is being discriminated against.

There is an ostensible reason for discriminating against obese immigrants: Obese people tend to require extraordinary health care and health care is expensive. Whether the nation has private or public health insurance, a wave of the people more prone to illness could be a burden.

I'm not sure New Zealand has stood upon a soap box and chastised America for its immigration policies. If it has, it needs to consider the matter of hypocrisy.

In any case, if one believes that there is not a human right to unfettered immigration, then one should not criticize New Zealand or any other nation that chooses to discriminate in its immigration policies.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Thu 22 Nov, 2007 12:47 am
Actually, both have/had to loose weight.

That's to fulfill New Zealand's immigation laws.

Some countries have different attitudes - and different immigraton laws.

And some people have a different to immigration laws altogether but to this in particular.

Immigration laws are always somehow discriminating, I think.
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Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Thu 22 Nov, 2007 01:04 am
Walter Hinteler wrote:


Immigration laws are always somehow discriminating, I think.


And well they should be.

I think the point cjhsa has endeavored to make is that discriminators should be careful about charging others with vile discrimination.

Again ----Not sure New Zealand has wagged their national finger at the US, but then I have such a soft spot for Aussies and Kiwis that perhaps I've chosen not to pay attention to their criticism.
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Sun 25 Nov, 2007 06:00 pm
Walter Hinteler wrote:
Actually, both have/had to loose weight.


I hate loose weight.
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