Why did God create all of this???

hi candid,

Are you of the opinion that unless you can fully understand not only HOW God created everything, but also WHY He did so, that it cannot possibly be?

The spirit world and the physical world which we inhabit are orthogonal to each other and there has been a breakdown in communications over the last 2500 years. The closest thing there now is to the ancient religious practices which involved direct communication with the spirit world is what is called EVP ( e.g. http://www.aaevp.com ).

Neither God nor anything or anybody else in the spirit world appears to have any sort of direct causative capacity within our physical realm. It is therefore at least possible that we were created in order to PROVIDE the spirit world with some level of instrumentality in the physical realm. THAT of course would require good communications between the two realms. That DID exist in past ages; it no longer does.

Nope.
I couldn't care less how it was all done really. If He exists in the capacity he is understood to exist, then it matters not how it was done. Poofism is poofism. If he created all of this, cool.
I want to know why.

1. A family in a neighboring town was murdered by their daughter and boyfriend. The couple slayed her Mom, Dad and 8 year old brother. I know how it was done. But why does a 13 year old murder their family?

2. I have a friend who is an artist. I can quickly see the colors used, the integration of certain waxes and other mediums into the oils that he paints with. I understand the craft. It is very simple....but why does he paint?

3. I have a friend who is an architect. He designs office towers. I know how foundations are laid, I can have loads and other engineering-related factors explained to me...but why has he chosen to design office towers?

4. Hitler engaged in history's largest mass murder and genocide. He killed tens of millions of innocent people. You don't need CSI to explain how it was done, but why did he believe that killing these innocent people was a good idea?

I find the entire creation story fascinating, not because God supposedly created all of this in 6 days, rather, why did he do it?
Killers kill because of hate, vengeance, recreation or as a solution to a problem. Painters paint because it's relaxing, it's an artistic release, it's interesting, it's profitable. Architects design office towers because residential work pays very little, because they can tap into their creative juices, because they can leave a permenant mark on the world. Hitler killed Jews because he believed they were inferior people, because, through eugenetics, he could create a master race, and because they were a scapegoat for many of the social and economic problems in Europe....

Why did God create the Universe? I don't care how he did it...
My inquiry has nothing to do with "because I don't understand it, it can't possibly be". That just doesn't fly with me. Something being beyond my comprehension simply does not stop that thing from being.

To clarify some terms....
Spiritual: God, supernatural phenomena, spirits etc.
Physical: That which God created. The universe, man.

Am I following you here?

Re: Why did God create all of this???
If you were uncreated pure spirit or Being, what would you do? Since you are unmanifest and formless, and presumably all that is, you might want to know yourself, or know your potential. God created the world so that He could know Himself. We are not only the creations of God, we are God since God is the unity and totality of existence. There is no separation between any part of the whole.

How do you know that "god" is a he?

Not totally. God created man and the biological world which we observe; the universe at large is eternal, like God. Creation stories in antique literature refer to the creation of our own local environment including our solar system, but not the entire universe.

<listening with an amused grin>

OK, so give me the best all-encompassing definition of what constitutes the physical and the spiritual. I don't want to assume anything here....

Re: Why did God create all of this???

I think that when you do an extremely thorough analysis of a fairy tale, you discover that it's still a fairy tale.

Why did God do it? Maybe he's got a sick sense of humor. Maybe it was done as you might set up an aquarium-or as you might set up a cock fight. Even if He exists, one thing is He never risked His Ass for anybody-but we can risk our asses for each other. He never kicked anybody's ass that had him outclassed-but we can do it now and then. If there is a God He's not precarious and beautiful like we are-He could only be the narcissistic youngest-child of the universe. He's not makin the calls and takin the falls. He's not a high-octane, borne-to-die, rock-and-roll love machine so screw Him and whatever He's got in mind.