Thou Shalt Not Kill, Except in a Popular Video Game at Churc

My objection here is to the use of "Halo3" to attract kids: it is a most extraordinarily violent video game whose one object is to kill.

Personally, I think there are many non-religious things to do which can perfectly legitimately be used to attract young people to greater religious participation. I see nothing wrong in using secular activities to strengthen the appeal of any religion, Christian or otherwise.

Tomkitten wrote:

My objection here is to the use of "Halo3" to attract kids: it is a most extraordinarily violent video game whose one object is to kill.

Anyone who has actually played the game would probably disagree, the storyline is far more complex then you make it seem. Besides, since when did christians feel morally outraged by storys of killing and murder? I mean, the old testament is basically nothing but.

Quote-the storyline is far more complex then you make it seem. Besides, since when did christians feel morally outraged by storys of killing and murder? I mean, the old testament is basically nothing but.-Unquote..

I totally agree.

Quote-Anyone who has actually read the Bible would probably disagree, the storyline is far more complex then you make it seem.- Unquote

I totally disagree.... the old testament couldn't be simpler, full of death and destruction... especially if being read by teenagers, if I was trying to con kids into religion of any sort, the old testament would be much more fun to read than these 'bag bag your dead comics ' they read now. Sure give them a insight of what religion is all about.

Your misconception is common among those who don't understand the bible. Death, destruction and human misery, to be sure, but as a consequence of Edenic rebellion, not as God's will.

neologist wrote:

Your misconception is common among those who don't understand the bible. Death, destruction and human misery, to be sure, but as a consequence of Edenic rebellion, not as God's will.

I never understood that logic, why should I suffer for 'the sins of my father'?
If all humans have free will then why should all humans collectively be punished for something an individual did a long time ago?
Or perhaps you interpret that passage figuratively?

I'm not attacking your beliefs, I just don't see the logic.

Today's New York Times has an article about evangelical churches using "Halo 3" to attract young people. They reason that kids will come (including those under 17, for whom "Halo 3" is rated unacceptable) and then stay for refreshments and religious discussions, lectures, etc.

Coolwhip wrote:

neologist wrote:

Your misconception is common among those who don't understand the bible. Death, destruction and human misery, to be sure, but as a consequence of Edenic rebellion, not as God's will.

I never understood that logic, why should I suffer for 'the sins of my father'?
If all humans have free will then why should all humans collectively be punished for something an individual did a long time ago?
Or perhaps you interpret that passage figuratively?

I'm not attacking your beliefs, I just don't see the logic.

This may be difficult to understand, I realize; but our human condition is not a punishment, but a consequence of the Edenic rebellion.

The bible holds a promise of redemption for all people, including those who have already died, that they will have the opportunity to claim the future that Adam and Eve lost. So, after one has been alive for a few hundred years or so, will he curse God for the pain he experienced in this system, or thank God for his life and his family?

This is all subject to verification, of course, but it is what the bible actually says.

anton bonnier wrote:

Quote-the storyline is far more complex then you make it seem. Besides, since when did christians feel morally outraged by storys of killing and murder? I mean, the old testament is basically nothing but.-Unquote..

I totally agree.

Quote-Anyone who has actually read the Bible would probably disagree, the storyline is far more complex then you make it seem.- Unquote

I totally disagree.... the old testament couldn't be simpler, full of death and destruction... especially if being read by teenagers, if I was trying to con kids into religion of any sort, the old testament would be much more fun to read than these 'bag bag your dead comics ' they read now. Sure give them a insight of what religion is all about.

Your misconception is common among those who don't understand the bible. Death, destruction and human misery, to be sure, but as a consequence of Edenic rebellion, not as God's will.

This is precisely what Jesus was referring to when he said that he came to bear witness to the truth.