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Scientist to Announce Creation of First Artificial Life Form

 
 
Wolf ODonnell
 
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Reply Tue 9 Oct, 2007 03:50 am
talk72000 wrote:
The point is we haven't figured out the meaning all the sequences of the four bases that form the genetic code.and what they do. What if accidently this bacteria causes a disease and cannot be killed?


It shouldn't do. It's a minimalist life form, stripped of everything except for those genes that are necessary for life. At least, that's what the project set out to do in the first place.

And you shouldn't really worry about it escaping. Normally, laboratories have very high biosafety standards. Pirbright was an exception, of course, as were a few of the US bio-defence labs.

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This is a tough area for there are real benefits to this kind of activity but also very dangerous ones far more dangerous than any other technology. Imagine a super intelligent patented franken human who decides to kill his/her franken father/mother as he/she was to be free of the restrictions placed on his/her activities as this creature might not be considered human and will be without rights. He/she could bypass the reproductive process and create a secret lab to grow more of his/her kind and definitely humans could be eliminated or put into a subservient position as they are not as superior in athletic nor intellectual ability. The movie iRobots and Matrix trilogy show robots or machines becoming masters. These franken humans are far more dangerous as they have everything and more what humans have as scientists have removed all the genetic impediments to superior performance to every activity. The X-Men movies illustrate some of the problems with mutants as well as the TV show Black Angel. The franken humans are not mutants but lab perfected humanoids.

The best minds need to get on top of this and a robust and rigorous oversight is needed to prevent the a future catastrophe.


Yeah, that's what ethics committees are for. Scientists have to apply for funding from research, whom have to ethically evaluate every proposal.
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spendius
 
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Reply Tue 9 Oct, 2007 04:35 am
It's a posh job creation scheme using smoke and mirrors and gullible sycophants.
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talk72000
 
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Reply Wed 10 Oct, 2007 10:28 pm
Wolf:

We had killer bees that escaped, fire ants that escaped, anthrax envelopes in mail boxes, foot-to-mouth disease escaping from a lab, etc. As in the movie 'Alien' it would not be the learned scientist who would be at all times be monitoring the situation but rather some lowly payed staffer or contractor who inadvertently or accidently releases the dangerous item or creatures not having a clue as to the danger nor being adequately trained.
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Coolwhip
 
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Reply Wed 10 Oct, 2007 11:21 pm
spendius wrote:
It's a posh job creation scheme using smoke and mirrors and gullible sycophants.


Are you always this critical of new research or just the kind that attacks your world view?
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vinsan
 
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Reply Thu 11 Oct, 2007 04:26 am
I see Resident Evil story coming true..... developing artifical viruses for nations who pay fortune to buy them as matter of national security.
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tinygiraffe
 
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Reply Thu 11 Oct, 2007 04:47 am
and good will towards men
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developing artifical viruses for nations who pay fortune


it's just like christmas. when they get bored with the toys they bought from us last year, they'll want shiny new ones that sing and dance and wipe out whole planets. oh boy santa, bird flu ebola! just what i wanted! people really are fascinating creatures.
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Wolf ODonnell
 
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Reply Thu 11 Oct, 2007 07:18 am
talk72000 wrote:
Wolf:

We had killer bees that escaped, fire ants that escaped, anthrax envelopes in mail boxes, foot-to-mouth disease escaping from a lab, etc. As in the movie 'Alien' it would not be the learned scientist who would be at all times be monitoring the situation but rather some lowly payed staffer or contractor who inadvertently or accidently releases the dangerous item or creatures not having a clue as to the danger nor being adequately trained.


And as I said before, the new artificial life form is minimalist. What harm can it do?
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talk72000
 
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Reply Thu 11 Oct, 2007 09:36 pm
You know that bacteria in favorable environment split up every 2 seconds or so. In one hour they have gone thru (30x60) or 1,800 generations enough time to evolve or mutate. In one day you have (24x1,800) or 43,200 generations. You no longer have a simple bacteria but a mutated one well adapted to that environment.
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spendius
 
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Reply Fri 12 Oct, 2007 08:31 am
And then it starts creeping up the drain pipe in the dead of night when the owls are hooting and after a horror movie has just been on which you've watched through your fingers and it gets in at the cracks in the window frame and by the time its done that its got to 10 to the power of 18 generations and gone exponential and then it starts.... well-- you can make up the rest to suit your predicament.
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talk72000
 
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Reply Fri 12 Oct, 2007 06:26 pm
No you land in a hospital that follows Uncle Milty's Inferno steps to a prosperous hospital by privatizing the hospital with lowly paid contract cleaning staff who don't properly clean the operating room, don't sterilize surgical instruments and wash the floor with dirty water thus leading to bugs that are immune to antibiotics and kill patients. As you can see a few days is like a few million man years as 2 seconds of bug life is equivalent to a 20 year gap for each human generation. In the 2 million years we got an ape-like humanid, or erectus, evolve to homo sapien. Any bug could in a few days evolve to something more advanced bug with greater immunity.
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spendius
 
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Reply Sun 14 Oct, 2007 01:25 pm
A sort of incubus do you mean?
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sun 14 Oct, 2007 01:41 pm
Very Happy
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