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French philosopher Andre Gorz, 84, co-founder of the Nouvel Observateur weekly,
has committed suicide together with his wife Dorine,
relatives told AFP on Monday.

Dorine, who was 83 and of British origin,
had been ill for several years. The couple were found by a friend side by side in their home southeast of Paris
surrounded by letters written to close friends and relatives.

Born Gerard Horst in Vienna in 1923, Gorz became a naturalised French citizen in 1954
and made his name writing about ecology and anti-capitalism.
He co-founded the Nouvel Observateur in 1954.

Last year Gorz wrote of his wife: "You have just turned 82.
You are still beautiful, gracious and desirable.
We have been living together for 58 years and I love you more than ever."

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In a German newspaper, Gorz was quoted as saying that he never
will be able to receive Dorine's ashes, he couldn't bear to be without
her.

Despite the double suicide, it's quite a heart warming, romantic tribute
to love.

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Ah, C.J. I have mixed emotions about this bit of news. It Reminds me of the song, Gloomy Sunday.

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Why mixed emotions, Miss Letty? For religious reason?

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No, no, Jane. Not religious at all. More like fear, I guess. Do you know the song Gloomy Sunday?

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From Billie Holiday? No I didn't know the song!

I understand your mixed emotions now, Miss Letty.
Here are the lyrics

Sunday is gloomy,
My hours are slumberless
Dearest the shadows
I live with are numberless
Little white flowers
Will never awaken you
Not where the black coaches
Sorrow has taken you
Angels have no thoughts
Of ever returning you
Wouldnt they be angry
If I thought of joining you?

Gloomy sunday

Gloomy is sunday,
With shadows I spend it all
My heart and i
Have decided to end it all
Soon therell be candles
And prayers that are said I know
But let them not weep
Let them know that Im glad to go
Death is no dream
For in death Im caressin you
With the last breath of my soul
Ill be blessin you

Gloomy sunday

Dreaming, I was only dreaming
I wake and I find you asleep
In the deep of my heart here
Darling I hope
That my dream never haunted you
My heart is tellin you
How much I wanted you
Gloomy sunday

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That's it, honey. They banned that song during the great depression, because people who lost everything were jumping from windows, etc.

I am not certain, but I believe that Roman Catholics declare suicide as a mortal sin, and will not allow those who do so to be buried in hallowed ground.

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bittersweet, piquant? (can't find quite the right word.. also beautiful, touching.

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This sort of reminds me of the story of two passengers on the Titantic, Mr. and Mrs. Strauss.

Mr. Strauss was a co-owner of the Macy's department stores.

Anyway, when the ship hit the iceberg, and everyone got busy getting into the lifeboats, women and children were given first consideration.

But Mrs. Strauss refused to leave her husband's side. The two of them went down on the Titantic together.

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Yes, I remember that passage too, Stray Cat. That was a little love story
on the sidelines of the tragedy of the Titanic.

Miss Letty, yes, but most Europeans - especially these two intellectuals -
are not that religious. For two 80 something lovers who have shared 58 years of their life together, it seemed natural to "go out" together as well.

The actual suicide is secondary to this love story, in my opinion.

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This reminds me of the ending to The Notebook which starred James Garner and Gena Rowlands.

Anybody else seen it?

http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h246/Reyn2244/notebook.jpg

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Yes of course Reyn, and it was such a beautiful movie.
I should see that again.....

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I didn't see that movie, Reyn, but I agree with Jane on her observation. If both were ill and afraid of being dependent on care takers, that is exactly what I would do.

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CalamityJane wrote:

Yes of course Reyn, and it was such a beautiful movie.
I should see that again.....

Yes, I thought it was excellent. The ending really choked me up though.

Letty wrote:

I didn't see that movie, Reyn, but I agree with Jane on her observation. If both were ill and afraid of being dependent on care takers, that is exactly what I would do.

Letty, the movie is about a lady who is losing her memory of the love she had with her husband (Garner). We don't know that during most of the movie, but it is revealed towards the end of it.

And in the end, they die together, willed by their love for each other. Even as I type this, I shed a bit of a tear.

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it's touching right, but if any lovers would do the same.. there would be no couples in the world !

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safinaz, this is not a thread to promote suicide among couples.

Here is an isolated incidence where both are well in their 80s and one is terminally ill, so they both chose to leave together.

This is not a Romeo and Juliet story.

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CalamityJane-
of course it's not a thread to promote suicide among couples ! I'm jus imaging how it would be if every couple chose the same end, I'm not talking about age or conditions, just theorically speaking about the idea.. noth more, I know it's impossible to be true but what I can do to my immaginations Very Happy

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Oh okay, then you can continue with your imagination Wink

Actually, the happy couples wouldn't think of committing suicide, they're
enjoying life too much for that, and the unhappy couples probably think
about murder first Laughing

That's love for you

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