If it hasn't been boiled, it is not a real bagel. Cinnamon/raisin? You want coffee cake, coffee cake you should buy.
Ah! Margo at least knows bagels from coffee cake.
D'art, boobie, your youth is showing. Once upon a time, there were in fact two kinds of bagels. Bagel-bagels. These are now known as plain bagels. And there were egg bagels, which seem to have disappeared. Bagel-bagels were big, hard, chewy things that required strong teeth, strong jaw muscles, and strong digestive juices. They started to turn bricklike almost as soon as they were cut open. Even without being cut open, these bagels would turn hard very quickly. This is why people took to toasting bagels. It was the only way a bagel could be eaten the day after it was purchased.
Egg bagels were soft. They were for the members of the family who wore dentures. They were yellow on the inside.
The first variation on the bagel-bagel was the onion bagel. At least that was the case in my neck of the woods.
Roger, I'm with you, kid. A bagel should be a bagel, and a piece of coffe cake should be a piece of coffee cake. The wildest I ever get with bagels is that I'm willing to eat onion bagels.
Margo, You don't like bagels? What's not to like?
Roberta: Not sure if it's my youth or my fading memory that's at fault here. I do recall egg bagels, but I'm hazy if my early bagel experiences included onion, garlic, salt, &c. In any case, let the record note: I was a child of the '50s...
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Margo, You don't like bagels? What's not to like?
Aaaccchhh! There's a whole thread on bagels in Oz!:
Bagels! We got bagels!!
Evil concoctions!
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Funny thing about bagels. It seems that people either love them or totally detest them. I've never known anyone to be ambivalent about a bagel.
Sadly, people today will not understand what BagelLoversUnited is all about. No one has mentioned water bagels. I learned there were water bagels and egg bagels, and there it was. I think IMJoy had four bagel receiving baskets, there must've been onion and...
D'art, As a child of the fifties, you would have gone through the plain bagel and egg bagel evolution. And as a child of the fifties, maybe your memory is playing tricks on you about bagel varieties.
Margo, Sorry you don't like bagels. You don't gotta eat 'em if you don't wanna. I was raised with bagels. I teethed on bagels. I don't gotta eat 'em either, but I wanna.
Andy, I've led a sheltered life. Margo is the first person I've encountered who's mentioned that she doesn't like bagels. I may have met other people who don't like them, but they never told me so.
Osso, water bagels are plain bagels and the basis for most of the varieties of bagels.
Yes, Roberta. And neither water or egg bagels are/were related to the big fluffs out there now..except in name only.
The worst abominations are those sold-in-supermarkets, mass-produced bagels in plastic bags. Sad to know that some people, including those with access to real bagels, will buy those. They're so convenient!
Roberta, re my memory: I feared as much! I know I've forgotten some things from 45 years ago, but this? Shudder...
Roberta, you must be looking in the wrong establishments if you can't find egg bagels in NYC. I've seen them in many bagelries. In fact my favorite bagelry has them but calls them challah bagels because the egg rich dough from which they are made is similar if not identical to the dough used to make challah.
Flyboy, I haven't really looked for egg bagels. But it's nice to know that they still exist. Challah bagels. I'll look for them the next time I'm in my bagelry.
Happy new year to those who are celebrating it now. May this be a good year for us all.
Oy veh! Now you people make me think never a bagel I have eaten, but "big fluffs", which by here means gig farts! Now you are happy, making me have such thoughts?
Oy! I could just plotz....some goyim just told me that 'bagel' is Anglo-Saxon for 'ring'....those pillaging goy bastahds...I need a little lie down...
Not to worry. A bagel is a bagel is a bagel. The word origin--gotta be German. Thanks, Phoenix, for the info.
What year is this? Does anyone know?
Oy, I'm plotzing from the playoffs. How can they start the World Series tonight? I need time to recover. I'm not such a spring chicken anymore. I'm exhausted. I can't even imagine how the poor boychiks who actually have to play the game must feel. They need time to ess and schluf.