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German Cardinal Sparks Outrage With Use of Nazi Term

 
 
Miller
 
Reply Sun 16 Sep, 2007 09:25 am
German cardinal sparks outrage with use of Nazi term

By Madeline Chambers, Reuters | September 16, 2007

BERLIN - A German cardinal has sparked outrage by warning that modern culture is at risk of descending into "degeneracy," a term that is strongly connected with the persecution of artists by the Nazis.

It is the second time in a week that a prominent figure has drawn fire for alluding to subjects linked to the Nazi era, highlighting how sensitive Germans still are - more than 60 years after the collapse of Hitler's regime.

Last Sunday, a public television network fired talk show host Eva Herman for praising Nazi policies aimed at nurturing families.

The latest incident occurred Friday when Joachim Meisner, the archbishop of Cologne, made a broad attack on modern culture in a speech to inaugurate a museum.

"When culture is disconnected from divine reverence, the cult descends into ritualism and culture degenerates. It loses its center," he said.

The Nazis used the concept of degeneracy to describe art and culture that failed to conform to their tastes. Today, the word is barely uttered in Germany.

"I am shocked that the term "degenerate" is still used," said former North Rhine-Westphalia minister Michael Vesper.

"Art is free and should not be pocketed by anyone. Anyone, like Cardinal Meisner, who is prepared to reject art which does not fit into his own pigeonhole of thought . . . is stoking a dangerous fire," he told Express newspaper.

A range of politicians condemned Meisner's comments, which appeared prominently in German newspapers.

The 63-year-old cardinal initially defended his choice of words, telling German radio he simply meant to say that if art and culture are separated, then both suffer. But yesterday his office released a statement saying he regretted that some of his words had been taken out of context and was shocked over the public reaction.

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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sun 16 Sep, 2007 09:39 am
I mentioned that on a thread about the museum yesterday.

Meissner's undestanding f art is.... well, a bit different.
And he is ... well, an ultra-conservatve.
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Ramafuchs
 
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Reply Sun 16 Sep, 2007 11:37 am
Miller
What can I say about this subject other than this.

"Science has done more for the development of western civilization in one hundred years
than
Christianity in eighteen hundred years"---John Burroughs

I do admit that in Germany
there are still some specimens alive and active to distort the majority's views
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Foofie
 
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Reply Sat 22 Sep, 2007 08:00 pm
To English speaking people, who are not of German descent, there has been a form of humor that includes speaking English with a German accent to parody the old black and white American/British WWII movies (the Gestapo speaking in English with a German accent, i.e., "Ve know who you ahr. Ve have vays of knowing!"

So, what I find humorous, is that to a few people, just hearing German being spoken brings back images of old movies with Nazis. So to think Germans are concerned about one word? To myself, this just seems like it is giving credence to the stereotypical supposed old German trait of Prussian love of order to the minute detail. Zot verd is verboten!
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sat 22 Sep, 2007 09:48 pm
Well, "entartete Kunst" just and only is connected with Nazi crimes.
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