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BAD NEWS: Iranians attack Kurdish rebels in Iraq

 
 
Reply Fri 24 Aug, 2007 09:53 am
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stevewonder
 
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Reply Fri 24 Aug, 2007 01:48 pm
why is it bad news?
The Iranians are defending their borders.
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roger
 
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Reply Fri 24 Aug, 2007 01:52 pm
So, how far into Iraq do their borders extend?
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stevewonder
 
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Reply Fri 24 Aug, 2007 01:52 pm
roger wrote:
So, how far into Iraq do their borders extend?


As far as American borders in Iraq........ :wink:
If the US administration can invade Iraq across sea and desert to protect its borders, why cant the Iranians?
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au1929
 
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Reply Fri 24 Aug, 2007 02:15 pm
This may be just the pretence the imbecile in the White House needs to start his desired Iranian conflict.
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stevewonder
 
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Reply Fri 24 Aug, 2007 02:54 pm
au1929 wrote:
This may be just the pretence the imbecile in the White House needs to start his desired Iranian conflict.


Thats unlikely, on that pretext. One of the problems with the Iraq war is the instability created for Turkey a NATO alley wuth respect to Kurdistan issue, we cant condemn the Iranians when we have given a green light to the Turks.

Turkey is not prepared to entertain a Kurdistan any more than Iran is.......
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stevewonder
 
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Reply Fri 24 Aug, 2007 02:56 pm
http://www.shalomjerusalem.com/kurdistan/kurdistan.gif

This is what the Kurds want
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BumbleBeeBoogie
 
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Reply Tue 4 Sep, 2007 10:28 am
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BumbleBeeBoogie
 
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Reply Mon 24 Sep, 2007 12:40 pm
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BumbleBeeBoogie
 
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Reply Thu 18 Oct, 2007 09:35 am
What Turkey Wants From Iraq -- and the US
SPIEGEL ONLINE - October 18, 2007, 11:14 AM
URL: http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,512175,00.html

WAR DRUMS IN ANKARA
What Turkey Wants From Iraq -- and the US
By Jürgen Gottschlich in Istanbul

The Turkish parliament granted Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan on Wednesday the right to order a military strike in neighboring Iraq. It's potentially a blank check for a new Iraq war -- but for now, the war drums are a way to underline Turkey's demands.

The words "War Drums in Ankara " were emblazoned across today's front page of Radikal, the center-left Turkish daily. A few hours later, the Turkish parliament reached a historic decision. For the first time since the invasion of Cyprus in 1974, the parliament has authorized a government to send troops into a neighboring country.

With an overwhelming majority of 507 votes (out of 550), the delegates to the Turkish Grand National Assembly handed the government a blank check, valid for one year, to order the army to conduct operations in northern Iraq.

Only 19 parliamentarians from the Kurdish DTP Party voted openly against the measure. Prime Minister Erdogan had insisted on an open vote. "The world should see how our parliament feels," was Erdogan's official reason, but the real intent was to shine a spotlight on the Kurdish faction.

The Erdogan government had expected for days that all the remaining parties would vote in favor of military action. "Our patience has come to an end," Erdogan said on the day before the vote, summarizing the general mood. "If Iraq wishes to prevent a Turkish military campaign, it must take clear action against the PKK," the separatist Kurdistan Workers Party. Iraqi Kurds, in particular, Erdogan said, must "build a wall between them and the PKK." The threat of military action triggered a wave of hectic diplomatic activity in both Washington and Baghdad.

A Strategic Mess for America

US President George W. Bush has switched to crisis management mode. Over the weekend, Under Secretary of Defense Eric Edelman, a former US ambassador to Ankara who knows Turkey well, and Assistant Secretary of State Dan Fried met with senior Turkish government officials. Bush himself emphasized in public on Wednesday that sending troops to Iraq would not be in Turkey's best interest. But the truth is that nothing could be worse for American interests than a new battle front in the only stabilized part of Iraq.

Trouble has been brewing for a while, though. In the past few weeks alone, 30 soldiers have died in attacks and direct military clashes with PKK militants. "We can no longer tolerate the fact that the United States and the Kurdish regional government in northern Iraq have done nothing against the PKK and still want to prevent us from attacking the PKK camps in northern Iraq ourselves. If this means that relations with the United States will suffer, then that is something we will have to accept. We are prepared to pay the price," said Erdogan.

Ankara's irritation with the US and the Iraqi government extends beyond their tolerance of the PKK. Turkey is also incensed over a decision by the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, which, after years of debate, voted to recommend to the US Congress that it classify the 1915 massacres of Armenians in the Ottoman Empire as genocide, a term Turkey strictly rejects when it comes to defining the pogroms of the day.

If the US Congress accepts the resolution, Turkish General Chief of Staff Yasar Büyükanit said in an interview over the weekend, "military relations between Turkey and the United States will never be the same." Washington is apparently taking Ankara's threat seriously. An ultra-nationalist party, the MHP, is already calling on the government to close both the US air base at Incirlik in southern Turkey and its borders to Iraq.

Both actions would deal a severe blow to US troops in Iraq. The Pentagon processes close to 70 percent of its entire re-supply effort through Incirlik, and at least a quarter of the gasoline the US Army consumes is brought into Iraq on tanker trucks from Turkey. According to the Wall Street Journal, the Pentagon is already looking into alternate routes through Jordan and Kuwait, despite the fact that both would be inconvenient and dangerous.

For Bush, a great deal hinges on whether he manages to convince his Kurdish allies in northern Iraq to curtail the Kurdish-Turkish PKK's attacks in Turkey, at least temporarily. Turkish government spokesman Cemil Cicek said yesterday: "Our hope is that we will not have to use this motion, but it is clear that an invasion will follow the next spectacular attack by the PKK."

What Turkey Might Do

The Turkish army denies having prepared an invasion plan, but three military options have been discussed in the media. The most comprehensive is an advance by about 20,000 troops to a line about 40 kilometers (25 miles) across the border, the goal being to create a buffer zone in northern Iraq designed to prevent PKK militants from making any further raids inside Turkey. A second option would involve a temporary invasion to attack PKK camps in northern Iraq and destroy the guerillas' logistics, then withdraw to Turkish territory. A third option would be to amass more troops along the Turkish side of the border and launch air strikes into northern Iraq.

For now, the war drums are mainly intended to put the necessary weight behind Turkey's political demands. Erdogan is aware of the costs of invading northern Iraq. Ambassadors from the European Union nations were summoned to the foreign ministry in Ankara this morning to listen to Turkey's position.

But the key political meeting will take place on Nov. 5. Erdogan still plans to sit down on that day with President Bush, although a handful of hardliners in his own party have pushed him to cancel the meeting. Officials in Ankara no longer believe that Bush has the power to dampen congressional enthusiasm for the Armenian genocide resolution, but Erdogan wants to hold Washington to its promise that the US Army and Iraqi Kurds will move against the PKK in northern Iraq. If he returns from Washington empty-handed, though, the prime minister will hardly be able to hold back the Turkish military.
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Translated from the German by Christopher Sultan
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Bi-Polar Bear
 
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Reply Thu 18 Oct, 2007 09:46 am
Maybe I'll take up smoking and cocaine again.... why not?
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