This is serious.
I may pat myself on the back and say that I have been arguing this for about eight years now. On Abuzz and A2K.
"The Big Bangers and the Creationists have more in common than either side would care to admit." Me quoting myself
Both sides claim a beginning that cannot be shown to have ever happened.
Both sides suspend gravity when convenient. Big bangers call it inflation---Creationists call it the resurrection,
Both sides deny the nature of EMR to shift frequencies with a changing gravitational field.
The red shift only represents the amount of space-time between two discreet events.
The CMBR (cosmic microwave background radiation) can easily be explained by at least two different theories, other than the echos of creation, or Gods voice reverbrating across the heavens.
a. Tired light--proposed by Hoyle about 1949.
b.the change of state of Hydrogen atoms at near absolute zero temperatures.
c.simple scattering.
d.energy densities of a gas.
I'd love to discuss this with somebody that can tell the differences between facts, theories, and hypotheses and wishful thinking