Reply Wed 15 Aug, 2007 10:02 am
Adam and Eve had consumed the fruit from the tree of life first, then the tree of knowledge? Could we be like God then? What's your theories on where God came from, and do you accept that he was just "there" for ever? Alpha and Omega? Would it bother you if you got to heaven, and God refused to answer your questions?
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neologist
 
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Reply Wed 15 Aug, 2007 01:22 pm
Unlike the tree of the knowledge of Good and Bad, which although being forbidden, was available to free will, the tree of life was likely to have been inaccessible in some respect, perhaps to be made available at some time after Adam and Eve had proven themselves in some way. There may be other answers, of course, but its being mentioned in the book of Genesis and in Revelation implies that it may someday become available to us.

As for God's timeless existence, it is no more difficult to imagine than the timeless existence of energy in some form. Isaiah 40:26 refers to God's abundant energy. Whether God and energy are somehow interchangeable is purely a speculative issue. But one thing is sure. If God exists according to the biblical representation, he is not bound by the same restrictions of space, time and causality that we perceive.

Not all of us will go to heaven. Some of us will inherit the earth as Jesus told in Matthew 5:5. At any rate, if we live forever, we would never run out of answers to the questions we might ask, nor would we run out of new questions.
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mismi
 
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Reply Wed 15 Aug, 2007 01:33 pm
Genesis 2: 16 And the LORD God commanded the man, "You are free to eat from any tree in the garden; 17 but you must not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, for when you eat of it you will surely die."

Genesis 3: 2 The woman said to the serpent, "We may eat fruit from the trees in the garden, 3 but God did say, 'You must not eat fruit from the tree that is in the middle of the garden, and you must not touch it, or you will die.'

I thought they could eat from any tree in the garden...except for the Tree of the knowledge of good and evil...and then when they did and understood evil God banned them from the tree of life...it would have allowed them to live forever apparently...

Genesis 2:22 And the LORD God said, "The man has now become like one of us, knowing good and evil. He must not be allowed to reach out his hand and take also from the tree of life and eat, and live forever." 23 So the LORD God banished him from the Garden of Eden to work the ground from which he had been taken. 24 After he drove the man out, he placed on the east side [e] of the Garden of Eden cherubim and a flaming sword flashing back and forth to guard the way to the tree of life.

God's plan was to provide another way to save man from his desire to become like God...just a guess but ...maybe God knew that it would take us humbling ourselves to truly love him. The only way to do that is to make a gift so great and amazing that we are overwhelmed by how good God really is. Dying and being seperated from God was Jesus' way of bridging that gap for us....our scapegoat...the offering in our stead...just a big guess -
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Scott777ab
 
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Reply Mon 27 Aug, 2007 03:42 pm
Re: What if...
GlassEmpty wrote:
Adam and Eve had consumed the fruit from the tree of life first, then the tree of knowledge? Could we be like God then? What's your theories on where God came from, and do you accept that he was just "there" for ever? Alpha and Omega? Would it bother you if you got to heaven, and God refused to answer your questions?


Actually according to the bible.

They were not forbidden the fruit from the tree of life. Just the tree of knowledge. It was the eating of the forbidden fruit that according the bible corrupted them both physically and spiritually. And because they had become so corrupted God then forbid them to eat of the tree of life.
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hankarin
 
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Reply Sun 2 Sep, 2007 07:30 pm
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hankarin
 
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Reply Sun 2 Sep, 2007 07:39 pm
God's beginning?
Did God have a beginning?

Ps. 90:2: "Before the mountains themselves were born, or you proceeded to bring forth as with labor pains the earth and the productive land, even from time indefinite to time indefinite you are God."

Our minds cannot fully comprehend it. But that is not a sound reason for rejecting it. Consider examples: (1) Time. No one can point to a certain moment as the beginning of time. And it is a fact that, even though our lives end, time does not. We do not reject the idea of time because there are aspects of it that we do not fully comprehend. Rather, we regulate our lives by it. (2) Space. Astronomers find no beginning or end to space. The farther they probe into the universe, the more there is. They do not reject what the evidence shows; many refer to space as being infinite. The same principle applies to the existence of God.

You might find these verses of interest Romans 11:33, 34; Psalm 145:3 and my favorite on this subject, Ecclesiastes 3:11.
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