Sorry to hear about your tribulations bigred, you have my sympathy cobber, life obviously has dealt you a bad band. I better confess I was only joking in my previous posts. I'm actually doing the car washing, and yes with a beer as I go along, but the missus is giving the instructions. She is still the original one and the mother of my grown up son, who incidently is 6'2' and a 16 stone giant, as strong as an ox and would throttle me if I didn't treat his mother right.