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I hope this works out for Darfur...

 
 
sozobe
 
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Reply Thu 19 Jul, 2007 11:32 am
Interesting, and appreciate Dag's comments.
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FreeDuck
 
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Reply Thu 19 Jul, 2007 11:38 am
dagmaraka wrote:
Not sure, Freeduck. When will it be? In five years? Who will have access? Who's gonna pay for it? Who's not gonna get in on the deal and be pissed off?

I doubt people will see ANY benefits from this anytime soon.


Yeah. I'm under no illusion that peace and love will break out at the watering hole. Just hoping for the best.
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Thu 19 Jul, 2007 12:01 pm
Appreciate dag's comments too. They were sorta kinda what I was getting at, with my doubt, but much more lucid.

On water, I've seen a lot of articles about it being the new oil; well, those are my words, at least I think they are, but it is a very important factor for haves and have nots, not that that isn't obvious. Let's say, of increasingly more importance in the machinations of various factions.
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Diane
 
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Reply Thu 19 Jul, 2007 12:57 pm
Dag, your knowledge and insight make you an invaluable source for those of us trying to understand world politics.

One thing the Bush administration has accomplished for many of us is an increasingly skeptical and questioning regard of government proclamations.....even for those of us who have always been skeptical.

It's about time.
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dagmaraka
 
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Reply Thu 19 Jul, 2007 04:34 pm
One of my most favorite current artists (and there aren't many 'current' ones) is Emmanuel Jal. He grew up as a child soldier in Sudan, later Kenya. His album Ceasefire is a great mix of hip-hop, blues, jazz, whatahaveyou... not your typical album for sure.

Here is an article about him from 2005. I thought this might be a good place to write about him, as he's heavily invested in peace efforts in Sudan:

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Hip-hop stars tend to escape from the ghetto in the back of a stretch limo, clutching a record deal and dripping with gold jewellery. But for Emmanuel Jal, who headlines the Greenbelt Arts Festival this week, the journey has been very different.

Jal grew up amid war and violence in the Christian south of Sudan. His father left home to fight for the Sudanese People's Liberation Army against the Muslim north and never returned. His mother died when he was seven, and Jal was sent 600km on foot to Ethiopia by the SPLA. He thought he was being sent to school, but ?'school' became a training ground for a generation of child-soldiers known as the ?'lost boys', who first saw action in the Ethiopian civil war.

"I learned how to live as an adult from the age of eight. We had to build our own huts and cook our own food. It wasn't easy," he explains. He also learned how to use an AK-47. "I have no good memories of my childhood. Everything is war and violence, from as early as I can remember."

Once the cause in Ethiopia became lost, Jal and thousands of others returned home to Sudan, to bolster the SPLA's forces.

Along the way, he faced many deadly enemies - helicopter gunships and minefields by day, wild animals by night (which ate many of his comrades) and always hunger and thirst. "At times things were so bad that we were faced with having to eat fellow soldiers who had been killed. But I will not eat human beings. So I prayed. I asked God to give me something to eat." And God, he believes, answered his prayers, providing both food and drink against the odds.

"There came a point when there was not enough water. Fellow soldiers were forcing each other to urinate into cups so they could drink. But they never survived. One day we gathered under a tree, waiting to die. I said, ?'God, if you are there, give us water to drink.' And then I prayed the Lord's prayer. I was only a child, but I was serious. A small cloud formed itself on top of the tree. A hundred metres away from the tree, it was dry. But under the tree, it was wet."

Jal clearly believes that someone was looking out for him. "An old lady told me that when my mother was pregnant, she used to pray for me: ?'God watch over this child. You sent this child to be someone great.' I believe there's a God somewhere and he's keeping me for a purpose."

The turning point in Jal's life was certainly little short of miraculous. After fighting in the southern city of Juba for the SPLA, he then made another gruelling trek on foot to Waat, on the Upper Nile, to join a different rebel faction. There, he came face to face with the controversial British aid worker Emma McCune, who had married the ruthless Sudanese warlord Riek Machar. Out of thousands of child-soldiers in the camps at Waat, McCune took Jal under her wing, and managed to demobilise him. She smuggled him in a box of aircraft parts to safety in Nairobi, Kenya, where she sent him to school for the first time...
Continued...
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dagmaraka
 
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Reply Thu 19 Jul, 2007 05:24 pm
And here are two more links. The first is his basic personal web site:
http://www.emmanueljalonline.net/

And here is his music myspace page. You can hear four of his songs there:
http://www.myspace.com/emmanueljal

One of them is "Vagina" (featured also in the movie Blood Diamond:

"...Neutral To Mr. oil, diamond and gold miner,
stop treating Mama Africa like a vagina,
She's not your whore, not anymore,
You take the riches and leave the people poor |:,

Never ever forget the genocide in Rwanda,
child soldiers and broken hearts in Uganda
Massacre taking place in Sudan
Young girls and women getting raped even now
Young children working in the mine fields
politicians allowing bad [?...can't tell what...]
and then they steal and then they kill...
and the innocent suffer...

To Mr. oil, diamond and gold miner
Stop treating Mama Africa like a vagina
She's not your whore, not anymore
You take the riches and you leave the people poor.

I see the government but who's pulling the strings?
Who's pulling the civil wars and uprisings?
Who's benefiting from our sufferings?
Could it be Mr. oil, diamond and gold miner?
Or is it the pharmaceutical companies?
Beneficiaries of the treatable disease?

Faceless, shameless, they remain nameless
But one thing for sure, they won't remain blameless
One thing for sure, they won't remain blameless
One thing for sure, they won't remaing blameless...
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dagmaraka
 
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Reply Thu 19 Jul, 2007 05:29 pm
And the last link: National geographic featuring Emmanuel Jal

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64cyNKlB9oE&mode=related&search=
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roger
 
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Reply Thu 19 Jul, 2007 08:21 pm
Sorry, crew. Maybe I'm a natural pessimist, but since I haven't seen significant progress in South Sudan in the past decade, I'm not a bit inclined to think all that water is going to do anything to stop the violence in Dafur. Seems like people get a taste for violence, and don't need a reason to continue. It's all they know. They may not be as thirsty, but i don't expect any other changes.
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Diane
 
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Reply Fri 20 Jul, 2007 12:03 am
A friend of mine from Connecticut worked for the Peace Corps in Liberia during the 60's. She has maintained contact with many of the friends she made there and, as a psychologist, had an interest in how the constant war had affected the children.

One of her friends sent her drawings done by teen boys who had known nothing but war. Their drawings had a cartoon quality, but the content was always violent, including slicing open the stomachs of pregnant women and tearing out the fetuses, bloody pictures of body parts, guns, sadistic cruelty.

It seems beyond belief that someone like Emmanuel Jal can survive with the ability to see beyond the killing and to go on to try to make a difference. There are always a few who can work past their background and affect the future in a positive way. I think these few exceptional people have been largely responsible for keeping the human race going for millenia without killing each other off.

He is an inspiring young man. Amazing that he survived with his humanity intact beneath the violent childhood he endured.
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Fri 20 Jul, 2007 01:54 pm
More on the subject -

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/6908224.stm
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abureel
 
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Reply Tue 29 Jan, 2008 04:42 am
No doubt the main reason for conflict was shoratage and lack of resources in this area, which lead to clashes among many tribes .
we hope this exploring will end this war. As I know the people of Sudan are very good and peaceful.
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