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Raise Your Hand if You Give an F about Beckham and Posh

 
 
mushypancakes
 
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Reply Tue 17 Jul, 2007 06:16 pm
Hey Youse Beck-people GET OUT OF MY NEWSPAPER!

Like the thing doesn't have enough garbage as it is.
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Gargamel
 
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Reply Tue 17 Jul, 2007 11:46 pm
Steve 41oo wrote:
I think the Beckhams will go down a storm in USA. They are not without talent. One can sing and dance, and Victoria can pitch a ball.

Just the sort of meaningless froth the americans love, and they know it.

just seen Victoria choosing a house in Beverley hills, actually quite funny in bits.

she's ok. Quite a nice line in self deprecating humour.

Very English in a way.

They are of course both on missionary work to bring football to the unenlightened masses of North America . OK bye


If only our paparazzi were the prim, proper, bowler hat and pince-nez wearing gents they are in London.

And Americans will reject soccer once again, but only to spite YOU.
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Gargamel
 
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Reply Tue 17 Jul, 2007 11:48 pm
double post
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Steve 41oo
 
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Reply Wed 18 Jul, 2007 04:01 am
Gargamel wrote:

If only our paparazzi were the prim, proper, bowler hat and pince-nez wearing gents they are in London.

And Americans will reject soccer once again, but only to spite YOU.
I think there is a fair chance football might catch on this time. There is quite a bit of interest by Americans in buying into the English Premier league, Glazer bros with Man U. and others. I think they know something. Beckham is part of the plan. Actually I dont really care if it booms or busts. Anyway so long as he and Vicky stay in Hollywood, that will suit me fine.
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Wilso
 
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Reply Wed 18 Jul, 2007 07:06 am
Steve 41oo wrote:
I think there is a fair chance football might catch on this time.


No it won't. Ignore for a moment that a fantastic game of soccer is marginally more boring than watching paint dry. Americans like sport that is incredibly structured. American Football and Baseball, despite being probably as boring, if not more, than soccer, are so structured they can almost be graphed. They just won't relate to the randomness of soccer. Unless of course it's played indoors. For some reason they leave all their structure outside, hence basketball and ice hockey, which are completely incomprehensible.
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Wed 18 Jul, 2007 07:19 am
Soccer isn't boring to watch as long as it's fast paced. The biggest part of the problem is the FIFA rules, which dictate no stoppages of play (thus no commercials) and only three substitutions/game, which means, at the end, they are all dead tired and moving like slugs. If FIFA and MLS would just consider incorporating some of the rules of hockey into the game, Americans MIGHT watch.
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Slappy Doo Hoo
 
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Reply Wed 18 Jul, 2007 07:10 pm
Soccer is the most popular spot for American youth. Then it drops way off in high school. Part of the reason it may lose it's popularity when kids get older, is the talented athletes start leaning toward sports they can go pro at. Plus the great football player is more glamorous than the soccer player. Soccer has never really had a big pro scene here. I'm sure a lot more kids have been getting into golf after the Tiger boom.
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CalamityJane
 
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Reply Wed 18 Jul, 2007 08:18 pm
Well, the influx of hispanics will bring the passion for soccer with them.
When I look at our local stadium that is halfway filled with approx. 20,000
people on any given football/baseball game where the capacity is about
60,000 people, and compare it to a soccer game with various Mexican teams,
then there is every seat in the house taken. The mood and cheer in the stadium at such a soccer game is better than at any super bowl - just
incredible!
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margo
 
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Reply Wed 18 Jul, 2007 08:37 pm
and they're coming to Oz - ar at least David Beckham, and the LA Galaxy team are coming here to play someone - I think Sydney FC, and we're paying them eleventy million or some other stupid amount to do it.

Trying to increase the profile of soccer here as well - and it's the fourth of the football codes here. Struggling to maintain a hold.
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Steve 41oo
 
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Reply Thu 19 Jul, 2007 02:03 am
Well as I said I think this time there is a good chance football might really take a hold in the US.

- there is a great deal of money to be made

- whether you like it or not it is the world game

- it is actually a great game to watch when you understand the rules and the tactics...and if its played well.

- I dont think you need advert breaks to keep them running...one of the attractions of the game is that it is free flowing and un interrupted by unnecessary breaks. The players get a 15 minute break at 1/2 time (after 45 mins), thats well enough time for a professional sportsman to recuperate and the injured to get patched up. And enough time for advertisements and consumers if thats why you watch football.

- I agree professional careers for young boys and girls is important. Its chicken and egg. If the game took root, you'd have the structure and the careers. Young Americans, if they havent noticed all the other football (soccer) stars, surely noticed David Beckham and Lady Beckham and realise there is money in the game.

- finally football/soccer. Football is the proper name for the game. Its played with the feet not the hands. It started and was codified in England and the Football Association ruled the game. Later Rugby football allowed the ball (oval) to be carried (and variants developed including NFL football).
To distinguish between the two codes football was divided into Rugby football and Association Football. The word "association" was shortened by common parlance to SOCCER, but most people when they say Football mean the game played with feet which is as it should be.

- however if Americans are resistant to football meaning soccer, I'm sure the money men right now are trying to get the official name of the game changed for the American market. But you will just have to get used to the idea that when we say football we mean soccer

Laughing
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shepaints
 
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Reply Thu 19 Jul, 2007 05:43 am
Soccer - A gentleman's game played by Hooligans
Rugby - A hooligan's game played by Gentlemen
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Thu 19 Jul, 2007 06:35 am
Steve 41oo wrote:
be.

- however if Americans are resistant to football meaning soccer, I'm sure the money men right now are trying to get the official name of the game changed for the American market. But you will just have to get used to the idea that when we say football we mean soccer

Laughing


Obviously, Steve holds a small chance in hell of ever being an American marketing executive...
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Thu 19 Jul, 2007 07:29 am
Victoria is a hottie though. Too bad she's so vapid.
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Gargamel
 
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Reply Thu 19 Jul, 2007 08:20 am
While the discussion on whether soccer will ever become popular in America is an interesting one, something tells me the media will instead focus on who Beckham and Posh are sleeping with, what Posh said about Lindsay Lohan, and how many total bowel movements the couple has per day.

Call it a hunch.
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Steve 41oo
 
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Reply Fri 20 Jul, 2007 05:17 am
cjhsa wrote:
Victoria is a hottie though. Too bad she's so vapid.
She's ok. Mother of 3 boys. She made her money before she met Beckham, through her own talent. She's not vapid, just her sense of humour is too subtle for you.
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happycat
 
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Reply Fri 20 Jul, 2007 05:28 am
Steve 41oo wrote:
cjhsa wrote:
Victoria is a hottie though. Too bad she's so vapid.
She's ok. Mother of 3 boys. She made her money before she met Beckham, through her own talent. She's not vapid, just her sense of humour is too subtle for you.



oh pu-leese. "Posh" was born of marketing, and is nothing more than a cartoon figure (literally and figuratively.)
I saw enough of her in the commericals touting her new show to know that I don't want to see any more of her and her entourage.
Her show is all that is wrong with American tv today. Do you think that Brits would at all be interested in watching a show about an American moving to London? Nah, only if she were naked.
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Joe Nation
 
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Reply Fri 20 Jul, 2007 05:53 am
Americans will begin calling soccer by it's proper name, football, the day after they accept the Metric System.

Joe(one nice thing is that the rules of football are written in yards, so there could be some transition)Nation
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Steve 41oo
 
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Reply Fri 20 Jul, 2007 05:54 am
happycat wrote:
I saw enough of her in the commericals touting her new show to know that I don't want to see any more of her and her entourage.
Fine dont watch. I bet millions will. Wasnt she on your Jay Leno show? I heard she did all right...not that it bothers me, I'm just relieved they're on your side of the pond now.
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Wilso
 
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Reply Fri 20 Jul, 2007 05:59 am
Steve 41oo wrote:
She made her money before she met Beckham, through her own talent.


They called her "Posh" spice because she was from a wealthy family. Used to get dropped off at school in a Rolls. She was already rich.
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Steve 41oo
 
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Reply Fri 20 Jul, 2007 06:08 am
Joe Nation wrote:
Americans will begin calling soccer by it's proper name, football, the day after they accept the Metric System.

Joe(one nice thing is that the rules of football are written in yards, so there could be some transition)Nation
But the English FA doesnt rule the game anymore. The world football authority is FIFA

this is from their site

FIFA wrote:
The minimum pitch dimensions for an international match are 64 x 100 metres


So you'll have to learn the proper meaning of "football" and the metric system at the same time. Should be fun Very Happy
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