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Thu 12 Jul, 2007 11:45 am
Why the older generation don't get jokes
By Ben Quinn
12/07/2007
Telegraph UK
It's no laughing matter, but the reason why grumpy old men behave in just such a way may finally have been pinpointed.
Jack Nicholson and Adam Sandler demonstrate the generation gap in humour
Older adults have a harder time getting jokes as they age because of memory and reasoning problems, according to a new study.
The researchers tested 40 healthy adults aged over 65 against 40 undergraduate students with exercises in which they had to correctly complete jokes and funny stories.
When asked to choose the correct punchline for verbal jokes, younger participants performed six per cent better than the pensioners.
One joke used during the study was: "A businessman is riding the subway after a hard day at the office. A young man sits down next to him and says, 'Call me a doctor, call me a doctor'. The businessman asks, 'What's the matter, are you sick?'."
The participants were expected to correctly identify the punchline as: "The young man says, 'I just graduated from medical school'."
The alternative options were less amusing, one of which saw the young man replying: "Yes, I feel a little weak. Please help me."
In addition, the participants were shown cartoons from a comic strip, and asked them to choose between four panels to locate the funny ending.
Three of the choices for each cartoon were the wrong ones and created by an artist for the purposes of the study.
In the test of visual humour, the students did 14 per cent better than the pensioners.
The researchers concluded that comprehension of humour could be affected by problems with cognitive flexibility, abstract reasoning and short-term memory associated with old age.
The results of the research, conducted at Washington University graduate student Wingyun Mak and psychology professor Brian Carpenter, were published this month in the Journal of the International Neuropsychological Society.
"This wasn't a study about what people find funny. It was a study about whether they get what's supposed to be funny," Professor Carpenter wrote.
"There are basic cognitive mechanisms to understanding what's going on in a joke. Older adults, because they may have deficits in some of those cognitive areas, may have a harder time understanding what a joke is about."
The health benefits of laughter have long been trumpeted by other studies, primarily because it engages every major system in the body.
The area was first investigated in the 1960s after American Norman Cousins wrote a book about how he'd cured himself of a crippling medical condition through laughter and vitamin C.
After spending hours in hospital watching The Marx Brothers and the US television show Candid Camera, he noticed that following a heavy bout of laughter he could have two pain-free hours of sleep.
In time, he recovered from the potentially fatal disease.
Hewlett-Packard in Denmark also reported a 40 per cent increase in sales after sending employees on a laughter programme.
You know, I find this really interesting, and hope others come by to give their thoughts.
Frankly, I don't know much about the issues of being older and losing the ability to see what's funny about a situation, since that implies at one point they had that ability.
I am puzzled by people of ANY age that simply don't seem to "get" when something is funny.
I don't mean when a type of humor just isn't your cup of tea. Then, you can still see what is supposed to be funny, and how others would respond to it with pleasure.
I've known people who just really don't "get" humor. They will, if with a group of people laugh at the appropriate time during a joke, but only because others are laughing. If you tell them a joke when they're alone...well, if they know it supposed to be a joke, they'll laugh at the wrong time maybe, or laugh too hard.
If they don't realize it's a joke, they'll try to respond as if it was just part of a conversation...."Oh yeah, that's happened to me too."
When I say "joke" I'm also meaning telling of something amusing that happened to you, or something clever someone said.
It's almost like a touch of Aspergers Syndrome or being so wrapped up in yourself, you don't see humor, because you don't relate to others.
Thoughts?
CHAI
Chai, all you have to do is watch "American's Funniest Home Videos" to ask yourself why do young people find things funny.
For myself, I've realized over time I enjoy witty stories in the European style more than I do stand-up comedy style jokes. I guess I find more subtle humor in wit than I do with knock you over the head jokes.
BBB
Re: CHAI
BumbleBeeBoogie wrote:Chai, all you have to do is watch "American's Funniest Home Videos" to ask yourself why do young people find things funny.
For myself, I've realized over time I enjoy witty stories in the European style more than I do stand-up comedy style jokes. I guess I find more subtle humor in wit than I do with knock you over the head jokes.
BBB
I was talking about those individuals, regardless of age, who simply do not "get" humor. Read my post again.
huh-huh huh-huh
Chai said, "ass burgers."
huh-huh huh-huh
Re: Why the older generation don't get jokes
BumbleBeeBoogie wrote:...The researchers tested 40 healthy adults aged over 65 against 40 undergraduate students with exercises in which they had to correctly complete jokes and funny stories.
When asked to choose the correct punchline for verbal jokes, younger participants performed six per cent better than the pensioners.
...
In the test of visual humour, the students did 14 per cent better than the pensioners.
I'm no statistician, but this doesn't seem like enough to draw any real conclusions.
DrewDad wrote:huh-huh huh-huh
Chai said, "ass burgers."
huh-huh huh-huh
No drewdad you must have misheard me. I did not say "ass burgers" I said aspergers. I was not saying that people have burgers made of ass, which would be an entirely different subject. I suggest if you wish to talk about those who take somethings or someones ass and turn it into a "burger" you start your own thread.
I was speaking of a condition similar to autism, but milder. One of the symptoms being literal interpretation of what someone else is talking about.
I certaily hope that clears things up for you.
Quote:This wasn't a study about what people find funny. It was a study about whether they get what's supposed to be funny," Professor Carpenter wrote.
Who said the older persons didn't find their answers objectively funnier?
I didn't get the train and doctor joke anyway....
The point of the joke is that he just qualified from Med School so he's asking to be called a Dr.
Not funny, but certainly better than the alternative given.
I consider these to be groaners... you get the joke but it's not funny.
Mame....what the hell does that have to do with ass burgers?
Quincy wrote:I didn't get the train and doctor joke anyway....
And how old are you? :wink:
The doctor had ordered fries with the burgers and someone misheard him and thought he said assburger and at that point I began to laugh and laugh and laugh.
My brain is obviously ok.
Mine is a French fried one, wanna a bit?
hahahhahahahahahahhahaa
<what the hell did he say?>