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Einstein and God

 
 
tessxyz
 
Reply Mon 26 Feb, 2007 05:19 pm
Whoever undertakes to set himself up as a judge in the field of Truth and Knowledge is shipwrecked by the laughter of the gods.-- Albert Einstein"




What do you think Einstein understood by GOD?
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Joe Nation
 
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Reply Mon 26 Feb, 2007 08:42 pm
A better question would be what he thought would be consistent with the terms Truth and Knowledge and whether they would be inconsistent with such fantasies as gods?


Joe(whatd'ya think?)Nation
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tessxyz
 
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Reply Mon 26 Feb, 2007 09:30 pm
Knowledge Ok
but what is truth?

And Gods as in religion were not high on his agenda.
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Joe Nation
 
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Reply Tue 27 Feb, 2007 08:16 pm
No argument here as pertains Albert's take on gods. I don't think he'd have any trouble defining what a truth is.

Where are you going with this?

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tessxyz
 
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Reply Wed 28 Feb, 2007 04:12 am
Sure but what is truth and is there any correlation between it and our human knowledge.?
Also if we are going to discuss this subject further we should establish a definition of God.
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Joe Nation
 
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Reply Wed 28 Feb, 2007 04:54 am
Well, okay, but we should also decide what color hat the tooth fairy wears and were the gods Einstein referred to were the Greek or Roman Pantheon?

I hope it's the Greeks, I think Zeus did a great job as god for over four thousand years before the Romans banned him. Do you think that's Zeus who's laughing? Is he laughing at the dead Romans?


Joe(or was Einstein just being funny?)Nation

Oh, and welcome to A2K!.
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tessxyz
 
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Reply Wed 28 Feb, 2007 05:14 am
I am not sure where I am going. More like thinking loud. So many people use the word God but there are so many meanings of this word.
The word truth is a difficult too . Is this a fact of reality? Is truth relative, objective, or absolute. It seems people take hours discussing God , truth. However, how come can we discuss things with words who might have different meanings to individuals.
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Piffka
 
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Reply Thu 1 Mar, 2007 02:11 pm
Re: Einstein and God
tessxyz wrote:
Whoever undertakes to set himself up as a judge in the field of Truth and Knowledge is shipwrecked by the laughter of the gods.-- Albert Einstein"

What do you think Einstein understood by GOD?


Very Happy Hello Tessxyz. Great quote and images.

I like to think that Albert thought the same thing as I do. (Why not?) That is, I think Einstein considered "the gods" to be the unknowable force which is just beyond reach of us but [U[seems[/U] to hold the answers to the universe. As far as I can tell, Greeks didn't have a concept for the universe but named its parts -- chaos, cosmos and the void.

It's pretty well-known that Einstein read Darwin (between the ages of 13-16 according to his bio by Pais). Darwin may not have been the first time Einstein read those words, Laughter of the Gods, but that phrase was used in an interesting discussion of laughter in The Expression Of The Emotions In Man And Animals. Darwin, at least, used the same quote, describing the Greek Gods as Homer did. We know them as tricksters. Cunning and clever, who understood jokes as well as irony, and who controlled on various levels, the running of the cosmos which was created out of chaos.

Here's the context in that book:

Quote:
JOY, when intense, leads to various purposeless movements--
to dancing about, clapping the hands, stamping, &c., and to loud laughter.
Laughter seems primarily to be the expression of mere joy or happiness.
We clearly see this in children at play, who are almost incessantly laughing.
With young persons past childhood, when they are in high spirits, there is
always much meaningless laughter. The laughter of the gods is described by
Homer as "the exuberance of their celestial joy after their daily banquet."


And who doesn't enjoy celestial joy after a daily banquet? It all sounds so cheery and domestic. I like it.
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wilgory
 
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Reply Sat 10 Mar, 2007 07:34 pm
Einstein's God
It is my understanding that Einstein's god was the natural universe and the laws that govern it. His religion was the wonder it invoked. I'm a big Einstein fan and read all i can find and understand. If this is incorrect please correct me.
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