Sun 18 Feb, 2007 06:53 pm
LINK to NYT article on book controversy
Part of the article here, see link for rest -
Children's Book Sets Off Uproar
By JULIE BOSMAN
Published: February 18, 2007
The word "scrotum" does not often appear in polite conversation. Or children's literature, for that matter.
photo credit - Alex Koester for The New York Times
Susan Patron, the author of the book and a librarian, said the controversial word was just part of the character's learning about body parts.
Be back later, osso.
This book included what I call a Howard Stern-type shock treatment just to see how far they could push the envelope, but they didn't have the children in mind,"
I do not personally see an issue with the word scrotum.
I mean.. would people rather the woman use something more.. abrasive?
Like nut sack?
Or lets just forget being some what accurate and call it " dangly bits"
but I do have to agree with the above statement.
It does seem to me that it was just a shock value word and nothing more.
I had no idea about dangly bits at all, by whatever word or words, until I was way older. That people fear an anatomical name drives my now much older self nuts... nuts, I tell you.
From my reading of the article, and I've explained my bias, the positioning of the word immediately in the book makes complete authorial sense. I may buy the book in support.
(everything I say is providing additional entendres, which I didn't start out to do, it just happened.)
That librarians back off due to these fears, makes me fear in another way.
And, dang it, I should have set up a poll.
Isn't that annoying?!
Scrotum. Come ON.
I don't believe it.
Scrotum is too much?
They think kids haven't noticed scrota (or is that "scrotii"?)
Mind you, it is, indeed, an 'orrible word....makes me think of phlegm and such, too...or scrofula.
If I were a man I would be campaigning for new words for my dangly bits.
Vagina sounds nice...although clitoris sounds jangly and high pitched.
Speaking of clitoris, there was a person's name in the article that made me look twice. But, y'know, that's mean, Osso.
I'd say there's nothing worse than the ignorance I was brought up in, except , of course, there are many worse things, some of them having to do with body parts. Still, this bodypart fear now completely amazes me. I guess I'm glad it amazes me, or else I'd be back near where I started.
Scrotum reminds me of our autumnal Supreme Court.. which..
Vagina, on the other hand, confuses me, as I am probably not completely comfortable with the long 'i' ...
but that brings up, snork, penis, which is a fine word, except that people in my experience are very careful when pronouncing incorrectly "Pinus pinea", which I remember as italian stone pine. They mess up the latin. I tried my best in difficult circumstances to say the latin correctly.
Vagina...isn't that the capital of Saskatchewan?
See, I've always pronounced that to myself - I say a bunch of words wrong since I only know them by reading - Redge-een' - a.
Am I wrong?
I'd say Vadge' - in- a if I were left to my own devices, or, maybe, Vadge-een' a, but not Vadge- ein' (like the german) - a.
I still call Debacle, deb' a cull, not de - back - ell.
Reminds me of a british prof of bacteriology always telling us to iss' o late our bacteria, whereas the rest of us eye'-so-lated them...
See, I've always pronounced that to myself - I say a bunch of words wrong since I only know them by reading
I'm glad I'm not the only one, osso. It was years before I realized how to pronounce adolescence.
(Other than letting kids read words they don't yet know how to pronounce) I don't have a problem with the word "scrotum" in this case. It seems appropriate to the story and adults who have a problem with it are not doing kids any favours by being coy about the correct words for things. Believe it or not there was some controversy here a year or so ago about a book for very young children called "Walter the Farting Dog" -- it was deemed rude! Any kid who watches mainstream TV or can read the headlines in celebrity magazines in the checkout line at the supermarket is old enough to know the correct term for various body parts -- they undoubtedly already know all the slang words. Sheesh.
Walter the Farting Dog is very funny. It's his expressions. So sad, so guilty.
I am the absolute queen of knowing words only by reading them, I guarantee it. I pronounced "triumph" as "trimf" (one syllable) for the longest time.
I too hate the way vagina is pronounced.
I often refer to it as my Crotchtal Region... just to get beyond
So how did this get from "scrotum" to "vagina"?
Tai Chi wrote:
Vagina...isn't that the capital of Saskatchewan?
No, it's one of the states of the US. There's also West Vagina.
What is the carbon footprint of a scrotum?
It's really not so bad this word the "scrotum."
It simply means the bag men use to tote'em.
Don't say it isn't fit
To appear in kiddie lit
And ban the books and cuss the one who wrote'em!