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Alright already Mr. Guitar Hero

 
 
BlaiseDaley
 
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Reply Mon 6 Nov, 2006 11:50 am
Have you tried roaming the pawn shops?
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hingehead
 
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Reply Mon 6 Nov, 2006 04:24 pm
BlaiseDaley wrote:
Have you tried roaming the pawn shops?


That ain't a typo is it Blaise?
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kickycan
 
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Reply Mon 6 Nov, 2006 04:37 pm
I think it's a bad idea to spend so much money to buy a six-year-old kid a brand new electric guitar, especially as a first guitar. And, in my opinion, if he really wants to LEARN how to play, he should start with an acoustic. It will make him that much better when he does get on an electric, because it's harder to play an acoustic guitar than an electric, in general.
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BlaiseDaley
 
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Reply Mon 6 Nov, 2006 05:49 pm
hingehead wrote:
BlaiseDaley wrote:
Have you tried roaming the pawn shops?


That ain't a typo is it Blaise?


Nossiree, this is one of those rare occasions I didn't typo. I've got a Peavey bass, Fender bass amp and an SG copy I really love that I picked up at such an establishment.

What were you thinking I'd fluffed up, HH?
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BlaiseDaley
 
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Reply Mon 6 Nov, 2006 05:54 pm
kickycan wrote:
I think it's a bad idea to spend so much money to buy a six-year-old kid a brand new electric guitar, especially as a first guitar. And, in my opinion, if he really wants to LEARN how to play, he should start with an acoustic. It will make him that much better when he does get on an electric, because it's harder to play an acoustic guitar than an electric, in general.


I'd agree about going all out on the first purchase but I'd disagree about the acoustic because the easier it is for Mo to get started with it the more likely he'll stick with it... and let's not forget the feedback factor.

BTW, you might try an "Electric Beginner Packs" search on ebay, they've got guitar and amp combos for under $200.
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hingehead
 
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Reply Mon 6 Nov, 2006 06:27 pm
BlaiseDaley wrote:

Nossiree, this is one of those rare occasions I didn't typo. I've got a Peavey bass, Fender bass amp and an SG copy I really love that I picked up at such an establishment.

What were you thinking I'd fluffed up, HH?


I'm a sucker for a bad pun. Weirdly I have a Peavey bass amp and a Fender bass (and a washburn bass and really old Korg DW6000). I've always want a Musicman Stingray bass. Sigh. Or an upright acoustic....double sigh.

(I had an amp stolen once and I always worry about the sad tale of woe that leads to once-loved instruments ending up in pawn shops).
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BlaiseDaley
 
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Reply Tue 7 Nov, 2006 05:27 pm
hingehead wrote:
BlaiseDaley wrote:

Nossiree, this is one of those rare occasions I didn't typo. I've got a Peavey bass, Fender bass amp and an SG copy I really love that I picked up at such an establishment.

What were you thinking I'd fluffed up, HH?


I'm a sucker for a bad pun. Weirdly I have a Peavey bass amp and a Fender bass (and a washburn bass and really old Korg DW6000). I've always want a Musicman Stingray bass. Sigh. Or an upright acoustic....double sigh.

(I had an amp stolen once and I always worry about the sad tale of woe that leads to once-loved instruments ending up in pawn shops).



Mmmm hmmmm.... an upright acoustic, I'm with ya on that.

You can always tell how well or how poorly the economy is by what's in the pawn shop... or who's been robbed.
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boomerang
 
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Reply Fri 10 Nov, 2006 07:29 pm
I went to a guitar store the other day and they were so nice!

Typically you go into those specialty stores (don't get me started on camera stores) and the people who work there are real jerky snobs but this guy was very cool.

I went in as "dumb" - I didn't let them know that I had asked around or looked around and the advice he gave me was very, very close to the things I had heard on this thread.

Surprisingly, he led me to the little Fender that echi posted on here!

He gave me tons of information about guitar construction and why this one was a good choice.

They have a kit with that guitar, a 10 watt (?) amp, strap, "gig bag" (that cracks me up), picks and blahblah for $200.00.

I thought that seemed pretty reasonable.

Mr. B thought it sounded kind of expensive. Now I see that Kicky thinks this all sounds kind of expensive too.

I guess I'm thinking --- Mo has some pretty expensive toys so, you know, a REAL guitar for $200 sounded kinda.... okay.... because guitars ARE expensive.
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Fri 10 Nov, 2006 07:31 pm
banjos are preety keen.
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echi
 
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Reply Fri 10 Nov, 2006 08:20 pm
Banjos are faaaaantastic. (I played one for the first time today.) But lil' Mo wants to rock n' roll, baby!!!
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2PacksAday
 
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Reply Fri 10 Nov, 2006 10:34 pm
It's hard to beat a package deal, and 200 sounds more than fair.

And from what I've read about the boy, he will probably think the gig bag is as cool as the guitar itself, if it has as many little pockets as mine does.
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BlaiseDaley
 
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Reply Fri 10 Nov, 2006 11:58 pm
Has lil Mo been exposed to the wonders of the juice harp?
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boomerang
 
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Reply Tue 14 Nov, 2006 04:25 pm
Out grocery shopping this morning I remembered that the new music school I'd been thinking of was somewhere in that neighborhood so I wandered around and found it. They weren't open (for the day) yet but they let me in to nose around and ask questions.

I was pretty impressed with their set up -- but I don't really have anything to compare it to.

They recommended a their fundementals course before beginning private lessons. Here's what they say about the fundementals course:

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Forte Fundamentals

We recommend that students start with Forte Fundamentals before taking private lessons. This class is designed to give students a fun and thorough introduction to their music studies - whatever instrument they move into next.

Students will play musical games, try out different instruments, sing and compose their own music. While we will make sure they have lots of fun, the main function of Forte Fundamentals is to establish a strong rhythmical base for their future learning. Students will work to solidify their rhtymical feel and accuracy. They also will begin reading and writing using standard rhythmic notation. Later in the class, students will learning the music alphabet and how to play a songs together with various instruments.

Students that begin with Forte Fundamentals will enter their lesson "with their feet running." Give them a strong start by enrolling for 1 - 2 terms before moving into studying a specific instrument.


This 9 week class costs $135.00

They offer 18 week sessions of private lessons (30 minutes) for $498.00. I thought this sounded kind of expensive until I did the math and found that it was only $27 per lesson. Most private lessons I looked at were between 35-45 per.

Here is the schools site: www.fortemusicschool.com.

I would love to hear what you experienced musicians think about it.

By the way - the next fundementals class starts tomorrow or Thursday depending on which day you pick.
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Noddy24
 
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Reply Tue 14 Nov, 2006 04:33 pm
I think the Fundamentals Course might dispel any unrealistic dreams of being an Instant Rock Star.

How is kindergarten coming? Could Mo cope with an extra challenge this fall?
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boomerang
 
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Reply Tue 14 Nov, 2006 05:49 pm
That is the $64,000 question.

I don't know if this would add to his "stress".

The deal is - Mo will not get a guitar unless he commits to lessons. He doesn't really understand the concept of "lessons" regarding this. He insists he doesn't want lessons so I insist that he won't be getting a guitar.

Today I told him that I had been guitar shopping and guitar teacher shopping. I told him that he would probably have to take a music class before he took guitar classes -- what did he think of that!?

At first, not so much but then he warmed to the idea after asking a lot of questions about it and looking at some of the information they sent home with me.

Then we called Uncle M., the man behind the guitar craze, and talked to him about lessons.

So now I'm trying to decide whether to spend $200 so that I can decide whether to spend $200 on the guitar.

He would have four classes under his belt by the time Christmas hit and the guitar would either be a yes or no.

Anyway..... he's now telling his friends that he gets to take guitar lessons so.......
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boomerang
 
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Reply Wed 15 Nov, 2006 07:39 am
I made a typo - it is $235 for the class.

When Mr. B got home I corralled him, gave him the lowdown and got an "okay". He thinks the fundementals course is a good way to really judge Mo's dedication.

Mo later approached Mr. B to tell him about the music class and ask him if he could go!

I take that as a good sign.

We start tonight. Wish us luck!
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DrewDad
 
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Reply Wed 15 Nov, 2006 08:41 am
Knowlege of music basics is definitely a good place to start. I like the idea of trying them on various instruments, learning notation, etc. All are good to have, and will make eventual study of the guitar much easier.

It will also improve his appreciation of music throughout his life.
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Noddy24
 
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Reply Wed 15 Nov, 2006 12:01 pm
The Music Fundamentals Class seems like a good idea.

Mo will undoubtedly be one of the youngest children. His maturity may have to stretch a wee bit, but being with the Big Kids who are taking Instrument Mastery seriously will help make it clear to him that he doesn't open the guitar on Christmas Day and have you book a recital at Carnegie Hall on Twelfth Night.

You are absolutely right to hold firm to "No lessons, no guitar." My youngest stepson "played" the violin between the ages of six and eight. He did not practice. He did not pay attention to the school lessons. He played in two recitals and would have sawed and squealed his way into a third recital had the long-suffering public school music teacher not hollered, "Enough!"

Shortly after he turned eight, we got physical custody. I insisted that he practice ten minutes a day, every day. I am still being held responsible for killing his love for music. In exchange, I have a vivid grasp of the Development of a Musical Phoney.

How did class go?
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boomerang
 
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Reply Wed 15 Nov, 2006 01:47 pm
The class is late this afternoon so we still have a bit of time.

Strangely enough, I was talkint to the other classroom-mom-helper today and mentioned Mo was starting a music class and she said her kids both took piano. I asked where she went and she said to this same school. She raved about it so I'm feeling more confident in my gut reaction to the place.

I know a million kids that started music lessons (or whatever lessons) and quit pronto. It's hard - you don't want to not let them explore things they are interested in but you can't get in the habit of nurturing every expensive whim either.

I'll try to check in after class for an update.
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Noddy24
 
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Reply Wed 15 Nov, 2006 02:25 pm
Boomerang--

Some of the best parental advice I ever heard was, "Rent, don't buy, the piano."

At Mo's age he should be exploring possibilities which is what the class is all about--and accepting beginner status which is what the class is all about.

I'm waiting for the next installment.
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