Quote:Because David's method of posting both
discourages replies and the reading of what he writes,
I hope copying him in this manner will be more logical and effective.
1. I dispute your premises.
2. I do not see that your way is more logical.
3. I am willing to put up with such trivial differences.
Quote:David wrote:
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So, it follows that your mother taught you education has no value.
That is a non sequitur.
Your reasoning is flawed.
Your argument includes the clandestine implication
that if something is of value,
then one person has the right to force it upon another person;
for example,
if an automotive mechanic goes for a walk,
and discovers a parked car whose tires shud be rotated,
that he is within his rights to get to work and do the job,
without the owner 's permission . . .
Quote:This is a classic example of a non sequitor.
This is a false statement.
U have pretended not to understand
the relevance, but u have betrayed the fact
that u DO understand, by alluding ( hereinbelow )
to the mechanic 's being arrested
for violatintg the rights of the property owner.
Hence, we see that u r FAKING a lack of ability to understand
what I wrote.
Quote:His example about the mechanic in no way relates
to what may be assumed his mother taught him about education.
It was offered in support of the proposition
that if one man needs something,
that does NOT give another man the right to force what he needs upon him;
if a man is thirsty
that does NOT give another man the right to FORCE water on him.
( I 'm trying to write this as simply as I possibly can
so that u can understand and will not pretend
to have very low reading comprehension. )
Quote:As evidenced from his writing,
he approves of children turning their backs on their teachers;
My writing does not give evidence of that.
U r twisting what I said ( for amusement ? ).
I don 't approve of turning her back,
but she has the right to do it,
the same as I don 't approve of voting for Democrats,
but people are within their rights to do it; the same thing in both cases.
The student has the moral right to reject
whatever she does not choose to accept.
Is that ez enuf for u to understand ?
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of screaming at the teacher
Did I say something about screaming ?
Will u quote my "screaming " statement for us, please ?
I seem to have forgotten that.
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who has told them to turn around
and stop interfering with the learning process for the rest of the class;
of using what is possibly an imaginary condition -- ADHD --
Told "
THEM " ?
How many students are turned around ?
Quote: as an excuse for the more apparent laziness
If she is lazy,
she is within her moral rights, to reject the information.
That might not be wise,
depending upon how valuable
the information IS,
but it is HER brain involved,
therefore she has the right to determine
what she will admit into it
and reject from it.
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of a spoiled child
U r very loose with your language
( again, as real liberal ); spoiled in what regard ?
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who was raised without discipline,
She has the right to reject that.
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or, as David might call it, "total freedom."
I have no way of knowing
whether she grew up in total freedom or not.
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As for your mechanic, anyone stupid enough to do work for free, deserves what he gets,
U see, Mr. Me, I was hoping that u 'd be smart enuf
to understand that I was raising the point of
whether he were
within his RIGHTS or not
to meddle with someone else 's property.
Was that too complex for u to understand ?
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which would range from nothing to an arrest
for violating the property rights of the car owner.
See, THAT 's what I mean !!!
I KNEW u 'd be able to understand that
the question of RIGHTS is what was involved !
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Oh! I forgot! In David's world, there are no rights!
U have slandered me, sir.
This statement is antithetical to my position.
I challenge u to quote where I have ever
said that rights do not exist.
David
Bye. Having never believed a word of it; I was destined never to return.
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