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Reply Wed 4 Oct, 2006 04:18 pm
Anti-Israeli books should be banned.

This book should be removed.

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Scholars Land Book Deal for Attack on ?'Israel Lobby'
Farrar, Straus and Giroux to Publish Work by Walt and Mearsheimer
Gabriel Sanders | Tue. Oct 03, 2006

John Mearsheimer and Stephen Walt, the authors of a controversial paper criticizing the role of the "Israel Lobby" in American foreign policy, are at work on a book-length version of their findings to be published by Farrar, Straus and Giroux.
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The two, who have argued that it "is hard to imagine any mainstream media outlet in the United States" printing their work, first published their paper in the March 23 edition of the London Review of Books. A longer version was posted on the Web site of Harvard University's Kennedy School of Government, where Walt is a professor of international affairs. Mearsheimer is a professor of political science at the University of Chicago.

The paper ?- which argues that America's "unwavering support for Israel… has inflamed Arab and Islamic opinion and jeopardised not only US security but that of much of the rest of the world" ?- has sparked a wide range of responses among scholars, pundits and former diplomats. Some have called it the stuff of conspiracy theory and antisemitism, while others have praised it as a welcome foray into a subject often thought to be taboo. The debate played out again on September 28, when the London Review of Books staged a lively debate in Manhattan featuring Mearsheimer, Tony Judt of New York Univeristy, Columbia University's Rashid Khalidi, onetime Israeli foreign minister Shlomo Ben-Ami and Clinton administration Middle East specialists Dennis Ross and Martin Indyk.

Many of the Jewish leaders troubled by the first incarnation of the Mearsheimer-Walt thesis were dismayed anew by word that it is to be republished as a book.

"They are saying what David Duke would be saying, what Pat Buchanan would be saying," said Abraham Foxman, national director of the Anti-Defamation League. "The difference is that they have the patina of respectability, and now they will have another coat of it."

Duke, a former leader of the Ku Klux Klan, was an enthusiastic supporter of the paper and claimed that his views had been "vindicated" by it. With figures like Duke in mind, Malcolm Hoenlein, executive vice president of the Conference of Presidents of Major Jewish Organizations, worried that Mearsheimer and Walt's scholarly credentials could serve to further embolden fringe groups. "We shouldn't underestimate the damage ?- and the potential damage ?- of this paper and the legitimacy it gives to the haters," he said.

Some were especially troubled by the fact that it was Farrar, Straus and Giroux that had decided to acquire the book. The publishers of Isaac Bashevis Singer and Bernard Malamud ?- and a host of contemporary Jewish writers ?- FSG is commonly regarded as one of the country's most distinguished publishing houses.

"The imprimatur of being published by FSG is hard to match," said Samuel Freedman, a professor at Columbia University's Graduate School of Journalism. "When a publishing house with its credibility and its reputation acquires a conspiracy theory, it can't help but make that conspiracy theory look more valid than it deserves to look."

Many commented on the irony of how a scholarly paper that wore as a badge of pride its purported exclusion from mainstream American media outlets has now been embraced by the most elite of American book publishers.

That the two scholars were shut out from the American mainstream was, according to David Harris, executive director of the American Jewish Committee, "a disingenuous claim from the start. It was a way to try and market themselves as victims of the ?'all-powerful group' they were writing about. It fed into their own conspiratorial notions."

But not all were dismayed by news of the book. Philip Weiss, a journalist who has written about the Mearsheimer-Walt paper for both The New York Observer and The Nation, said that an expanded version of the thesis would be a welcome addition to an overdue debate. "I think there's a lot of interest in these ideas," Weiss said. "The conversation's just begun."


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Dartagnan
 
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Reply Wed 4 Oct, 2006 04:25 pm
Au contraire. We don't ban books so easily in the U.S.
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kiwimac
 
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Reply Wed 4 Oct, 2006 08:41 pm
Simply because you do not like the book is no reason to ban it. Oh and for the record, anti-israel DOES NOT EQUAL anti-semitic.

Kiwimac
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littlek
 
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Reply Wed 4 Oct, 2006 08:43 pm
Quote:

The paper ?- which argues that America's "unwavering support for Israel… has inflamed Arab and Islamic opinion and jeopardised not only US security but that of much of the rest of the world"


Hasn't it?
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Brandon9000
 
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Reply Fri 6 Oct, 2006 08:05 am
News flash: Freedom of speech does NOT mean, "I should have the right to say what I think, because I'm right."

No book bannings - even of books expressing sentiments most people find repugnant.
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Sturgis
 
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Reply Fri 6 Oct, 2006 09:50 am
No book should ever be banned. Books represent the thoughts and ideas of various and varied individuals. Just because one person is offended by the words and thoughts of another does not in and of itself justify destroying the existence of those words and thoughts. Think of book banning as in its own way, similar to people banning because certain people have ideas which offend us. Now imagine if you will all the people who would be locked away and never seen or heard from again.

Additionally, without the input of ideas which you deem offensive or wrong, society as a whole would become a bland paste. I personally find many books which support liberal viewpoints to be offensive and deplorable however I have never seen fit to ban either them or the persons who write them.
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danny boy
 
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Reply Wed 11 Oct, 2006 04:29 pm
Dartagnan wrote:
Au contraire. We don't ban books so easily in the U.S.


Well thats what you think bub!

Books like these should be allowed and if they exist they should burned and banned
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danny boy
 
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Reply Wed 11 Oct, 2006 04:30 pm
Sturgis wrote:
No book should ever be banned. Books represent the thoughts and ideas of various and varied individuals. Just because one person is offended by the words and thoughts of another does not in and of itself justify destroying the existence of those words and thoughts. Think of book banning as in its own way, similar to people banning because certain people have ideas which offend us. Now imagine if you will all the people who would be locked away and never seen or heard from again.

Additionally, without the input of ideas which you deem offensive or wrong, society as a whole would become a bland paste. I personally find many books which support liberal viewpoints to be offensive and deplorable however I have never seen fit to ban either them or the persons who write them.


Books that criticize Israel deserve to be banned, anyone who disagrees is anti-semitic.
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danny boy
 
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Reply Wed 11 Oct, 2006 04:32 pm
Brandon9000 wrote:
News flash: Freedom of speech does NOT mean, "I should have the right to say what I think, because I'm right."

No book bannings - even of books expressing sentiments most people find repugnant.

I agree with you people should not be free to say what they want, which is why anti-Israel books should be banned.
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danny boy
 
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Reply Wed 11 Oct, 2006 04:33 pm
kiwimac wrote:
Simply because you do not like the book is no reason to ban it. Oh and for the record, anti-israel DOES NOT EQUAL anti-semitic.

Kiwimac


yes they should be banned
and yes being anti Israeli is anti semitic no one should be allowed to question Israel.
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timberlandko
 
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Reply Wed 11 Oct, 2006 04:34 pm
danny_boy wrote:
Books that criticize Israel deserve to be banned, anyone who disagrees is anti-semitic.

Nonsense - and the endorsement of any such proposition is idiotic.
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danny boy
 
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Reply Wed 11 Oct, 2006 04:40 pm
timberlandko wrote:
danny_boy wrote:
Books that criticize Israel deserve to be banned, anyone who disagrees is anti-semitic.

Nonsense - and the endorsement of any such proposition is idiotic.


Actually it stands to reason, the only people that write and attack Israel are anti-semitic, why else would anyone question Israel?
It is therefore not idiotic but your attempt to provide an arguement is.
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danny boy
 
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Reply Wed 11 Oct, 2006 04:41 pm
littlek wrote:
Quote:

The paper ?- which argues that America's "unwavering support for Israel… has inflamed Arab and Islamic opinion and jeopardised not only US security but that of much of the rest of the world"


Hasn't it?


No they are just crazy.
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timberlandko
 
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Reply Wed 11 Oct, 2006 04:42 pm
Thank for further confirming my point. I'd say you've well established your credentials here.
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danny boy
 
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Reply Wed 11 Oct, 2006 04:44 pm
timberlandko wrote:
Thank for further confirming my point. I'd say you've well established your credentials here.

You dont have a leg or head to stand on.
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Wed 11 Oct, 2006 04:51 pm
danny_boy wrote:
why else would anyone question Israel?


dannyboy, perhaps you should consider this question yourself
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timberlandko
 
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Reply Wed 11 Oct, 2006 04:58 pm
danny_boy wrote:
timberlandko wrote:
Thank for further confirming my point. I'd say you've well established your credentials here.

You dont have a leg or head to stand on.

http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/4100/quitdigging4jc.jpg
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danny boy
 
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Reply Wed 11 Oct, 2006 05:00 pm
ehBeth wrote:
danny_boy wrote:
why else would anyone question Israel?


dannyboy, perhaps you should consider this question yourself


Yes I have done, now why dont you consider it?
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danny boy
 
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Reply Wed 11 Oct, 2006 05:01 pm
timberlandko wrote:
danny_boy wrote:
timberlandko wrote:
Thank for further confirming my point. I'd say you've well established your credentials here.

You dont have a leg or head to stand on.

http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/4100/quitdigging4jc.jpg



great pic, mr. troll.
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timberlandko
 
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Reply Wed 11 Oct, 2006 06:08 pm
One having opportunity to choose one's battles is well advised to do a bit of research on one's prospective opponents. You've much to learn, danny_boy, and whether you learn or not is up to you.
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