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Reply Tue 22 Aug, 2006 06:57 am
In differential equations, we meet with y' very often. For example, y'=x+y. Could you tell me how to read y', please? Thanks.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Tue 22 Aug, 2006 07:16 am
One would say that aloud in English as "y prime." The symbol ' used in a mathematical expression refers to what the American Heritage Dictionary defines as: One used to distinguish different values of the same variable in a mathematical expression.
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ddlddlee
 
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Reply Tue 22 Aug, 2006 07:26 am
Thank you very much, Setanta. And so y'=x/y should be read as y prime equals what? That is, I don't know how to read x/y. Could you tell me,please? Thanks.
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ebrown p
 
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Reply Tue 22 Aug, 2006 07:30 am
In differential equations y' is often a shortcut which means dy/dx (read the derivitive of y with respect to x). Sometime (depending on the context) 't' or another 'obvious' independent variable is meant in place of x.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Tue 22 Aug, 2006 07:31 am
That would be read, if you have expressed it correctly, as: "y prime equals x divided by y." Usually, a "prime" variable is often expressed as follows: "factor in y prime, where y prime equals x divided by y . . . "
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ebrown p
 
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Reply Tue 22 Aug, 2006 07:35 am
Setanta (with all due respect), I think you are mistaken.

I am pretty sure the problem is a differential equation. This is a standard problem in calculus and is really a symbolic shortcut for

dy/dx = x/y

The challenge being to find the set of functions that have this derivative...
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Setanta
 
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Reply Tue 22 Aug, 2006 07:37 am
I have not offered any mathematical opinions, here, E_brown. The question was how to say the symbols in English, and that is the only topic which i have addressed. The member did not ask for a mathematical solution or description, and i have not offered either.
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ddlddlee
 
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Reply Tue 22 Aug, 2006 06:43 pm
You are both right. Yes, the equation I provided is y'=x/y, i.e. dy/dx=x/y. I just asked how to read that equation. Now I got it. Thank you both!
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