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Old Songs That Illustrate Changes in Society

 
 
Reply Mon 15 May, 2006 05:15 am
A couple of days ago, I was listening to an "oldies" station. They played a song that was one that I really liked as a kid. It was sung by Doris Day, and was very upbeat and sprightly.


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A GUY IS A GUY
- words and music by Oscar Brand
- adapted from the naughty World War II soldiers' song "A Gob Is A Slob".
Brand cleaned up the lyrics. "A Gob Is A Slob" was based on the 1719
British song "I Went To the Alehouse (A Knave Is A Knave)"
- lyrics as recorded by Doris Day in 1951

I walked down the street like a good girl should
He followed me down the street like I knew he would
Because a guy is a guy wherever he may be
So listen and I'll tell you what this fella did to me

I walked to my house like a good girl should
He followed me to my house like I knew he would
Because a guy is a guy wherever he may be
So listen while I tell you what this fella did to me

I never saw the boy before
So nothin' could be sillier
At closer range his face was strange
But his manner was familiar

So I walked up the stairs like a good girl should
He followed me up the stairs like I knew he would
Because a guy is a guy wherever he may be
So listen and I'll tell you what this fella did to me

I stepped to my door like a good girl should
He stopped at my door like I knew he would
Because a guy is a guy wherever he may be
So listen while I tell you what this fella did to me

He asked me for a good-night kiss
I said, "It's still good day"
I would have told him more except
His lips got in the way

So I talked to my ma like a good girl should
And Ma talked to Pa like I knew she would
And they all agreed on a married life for me
The guy is my guy wherever he may be

So I walked down the aisle like a good girl should
He followed me down the aisle like I knew he would
Because a guy is a guy wherever he may be
And now you've heard the story of what someone did to me

And that's what he did to me


Besides the fact that this song is terribly old fashioned, I realized that it would never "fly" today. The song was about stalking, and sexual harrassment, wrapped up in a pretty pink package. It illustrated the totally different attitudes and mores between men and women in the fifties, compared to the present time.

Can you think of a song that was popular years ago, that really shows its age, by the different attitude, or ways of thinking, that it espouses?
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Mon 15 May, 2006 05:22 am
Want to go to jail, guys? Try this.

Standing on the Corner - The Four Lads, I think


Standing on the corner watching all the girls go by
Standing on the corner watching all the girls go by
Brother you don't know a nicer occupation
Matter of fact, neither do I
Than standing on the corner watching all the girls
Watching all the girls, watching all the girls go by

I'm the cat that got the cream
Haven't got a girl but I can dream
Haven't got a girl but I can wish
So I'll take me down to Mainstreet
And that's where I select my imaginary dish

Standing on the corner watching all the girls go by
Standing on the corner giving all the girls the eye
Brother if you've got a rich imagination
Give it a whirl, give it a try
Try standing on the corner watching all the girls
Watching all the girls, watching all the girls go by

Saturday and I'm so broke
Haven't got a girl and no joke
Still I'm living like a millionaire
When I take me down to Mainstreet
When I take me down to Mainstreet
And I review the harem
Parading for me there

Standing on the corner
Watching all the girls go by
Standing on the corner
Underneath the springtime sky
Brother, you can't go to jail
For what you're thinking
Or for the woo look in your eye
You're only standing on the corner
Watching all the girls
Watching all the girls
Watching all the girls
Go by
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Mon 15 May, 2006 05:24 am
Reading those lyrics over, I think maybe it was as much the attitude as the words made me think of it that way. I don't know if it is really that different now.
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Phoenix32890
 
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Reply Mon 15 May, 2006 05:32 am
edgarblythe wrote:
Reading those lyrics over, I think maybe it was as much the attitude as the words made me think of it that way. I don't know if it is really that different now.


It isn't, but the guys won't admit to it now, (in public, at least! Laughing )
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Phoenix32890
 
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Reply Mon 15 May, 2006 05:36 am
This was one of my all time favorite songs as a kid. Looking at it now, I realize that if it were ever popularized today, some mental health group would take serious umbrage, as making fun of mental illness.

Quote:
They're Coming to Take Me Away, Ha-Haaa


Remember when you ran away and I got on my knees and begged you not to
leave because I'd go berserk?? Well...
You left me anyhow and then the days got worse and worse and now you see
I've gone completely out of my mind.. And..
They're coming to take me away, ha-haaa!!
They're coming to take me away, ho-ho, hee-hee, ha-haaa
To the funny farm. Where life is beautiful all the time and I'll be
happy to see those nice young men in their clean white coats and they're
coming to take me away, ha-haaa!!!!!

You thought it was a joke and so you laughed, you laughed when I had said
that loosing you would make me flip my lid.. RIGHT???
I know you laughed, I heard you laugh, you laughed you laughed and
laughed and then you left, but now you know I'm utterly mad... And..


They're coming to take me away, ha-haaa,
They're coming to take me away, ho-ho, hee-hee, ha-haaa.
To the happy home. With trees and flowers and chirping birds and basket
weavers who sit and smile and twiddle their thumbs and toes and they're
coming to take me away, ha-haaa!!!

I cooked your food, I cleaned your house, and this is how you pay me back
for all my kind unselfish loving deeds.. Huh??
Well you just wait, they'll find you yet and when they do they'll put you
in the ASPCA, you mangy mutt!!! And...

They're coming to take me away, ha-haaa.
They're coming to take me away, ho-ho, hee-hee, ha-haaa.
To the funny farm, where life is beautiful all the time and I'll be happy
to see those nice young men in their clean white coats and they're coming
to take me away, ha-haaa!!!
To the happy home, with trees and flowers and chirping birds and basket
weavers who sit and smile and twiddle their thumbs and toes and they're
coming to take me away, ha-haa!!!
To the funny farm, where life is beautiful all the time... (fade out)

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Phoenix32890
 
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Reply Mon 15 May, 2006 05:44 am
Irving Berlin wrote a play called "Miss Liberty", which first opened 1n 1949. One of the songs from this show was called, "Homework", whose words and ideas would be quite alien to the young people of today:


Quote:
Homework Lyrics

I'm so tired of working in an office
And it's making me blue
There is work that don't require an office
That I'm anxious to do

Homework, I want to do homework
Instead of an office, I want to work home

Staying at home and crocheting
And meekly obeying
The guy who comes home

A cozy kitchen to be in there pitchin'
Is the thing I'm longing to do
To be there learning when a steak needs turning
And just what goes into a stew

Homework, I want to do homework
A genius who sits and plans with pots and pans at home
A genius who bakes a pie that keeps a guy at home

[2]
Homework, I want to do homework
Instead of an office, I want to work home

Messing around with French dressing
And slightly impressing
The guy who comes home

I long to settle with a steaming kettle
And a frying pan and a pot
And be the keeper of a carpet sweeper
That's the one ambition I've got

Homework, I want to do homework
A genius who has a way that makes him stay at home
A genius who has what takes that makes or breaks a home

[3]
Homework, I want to do homework
Instead of an office, I want to work home

Patching his trousers and matching
The part that keeps scratching
The guy who comes home

A table wiper who can change a diaper
Is the thing I'd like to be best
And be the master of a mustard plaster
When the cold goes down to his chest

Homework, I want to do homework
A genius who does her part so he don't start to roam
A genius who earns her keep that makes him sleep at home
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Joeblow
 
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Reply Mon 15 May, 2006 06:38 am
Neat study. Bookmark.
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Shapeless
 
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Reply Mon 15 May, 2006 07:12 am
Here's a classic from 1959, made popular in 1965, that I'm sure we'll all recognize. I'll just quote the most pertinent bits:

ROLPH:
...You need someone older and wiser
Telling you what to do
I am seventeen going on eighteen
I'll take care of you!

LIESEL:
...I need someone older and wiser
Telling me what to do
You are seventeen going on eighteen
I'll depend on you!
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Phoenix32890
 
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Reply Mon 15 May, 2006 07:24 am
Good one, shapeless. There was an attitude in the "olden days" that the guy in the relationship had to be older. That put him in the superior position. It WAS relevent at 17-18, because girls mature faster, but really did not matter amongst two adults.

I remember that some young people were embarrassed if the woman were the older person in the couple.
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Phoenix32890
 
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Reply Mon 15 May, 2006 07:29 am
Quote:
Oh I need you, by me,
beside me, to guide me,
to hold me, to scold me,
'cause when I'm bad
I'm so, so bad


http://www.lyrics007.com/Donna%20Summer%20Lyrics/Last%20Dance%20Lyrics.html

Donna Summer had this popular disco hit. As in shapeless' song, the message was that the woman needed a guy to "keep her in line".
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Bi-Polar Bear
 
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Reply Mon 15 May, 2006 07:48 am
She's Having My baby...
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Noddy24
 
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Reply Mon 15 May, 2006 08:00 am
What's the song/scene from Carousel which accepts wife-beating as "normal"?
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Lord Ellpus
 
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Reply Mon 15 May, 2006 08:02 am
...and one for all you Peeping Toms.



When I'm Cleaning Windows
George Formby

- as recorded September 27, 1936 by George Formby (1904-1961)



Now I go cleanin' windows to earn an honest bob
For a nosy parker it's an interestin' job

Now it's a job that just suits me
A window cleaner you would be
If you can see what I can see
When I'm cleanin' windows

Honeymoonin' couples too
You should see them bill 'n coo
You'd be surprised at things they do
When I'm cleanin' windows

In my profession I'll work hard
But I'll never stop
I'll climb this blinkin' ladder
Till I get right to the top

The blushin' bride, she looks divine
The bridegroom he is doin' fine
I'd rather have his job than mine
When I'm cleanin' windows

The chambermaids' sweet names I call
It's a wonder I don't fall
My mind's not on my work at all
When I'm cleanin' windows

I know a fella, such a swell
He has a thirst, that's plain to tell
I've seen him drink his bath as well
When I'm cleanin' windows

Oh, in my profession I'll work hard
But I'll never stop
I'll climb this blinkin' ladder
Till I get right to the top

Pyjamas lyin' side by side
Ladies nighties I have spied
I've often seen what goes inside
When I'm cleanin' windows

(Groovy banjo instrumental bit)


(More banjo - just as groovy)


(back to the song)

Now there's a famous talkie queen
She looks a flapper on the screen
She's more like eightie than eighteen
When I'm cleanin' windows

She pulls her hair all down behind
Then pulls down her... never mind
And after that pulls down the blind
When I'm cleanin' windows

In my profession I'll work hard
But I'll never stop
I'll climb this blinkin' ladder
Till I get right to the top

An old maid walks around the floor
She's so fed up, one day I'm sure
She'll drag me in and lock the door
When I'm cleanin' windows

When I'm cleanin' windows
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Phoenix32890
 
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Reply Mon 15 May, 2006 08:08 am
Quote:
An old maid walks around the floor
She's so fed up, one day I'm sure
She'll drag me in and lock the door
When I'm cleanin' windows


Harrumph! What an image. You don't even hear the expression "old maid" anymore. For the young'uns, and old maid was a woman, usually by her late 20's, who had never been married.

The term had the connotation of a real "loser", who would spend the rest of her life, working either as a librarian, or a teacher, and being the object of pity. Often these women remained at home with their parents, and took care of them in their old age. She really had no life of her own.

The concept of a woman choosing not to marry, and having a rewarding, well paying career, did not exist very much until after the rise of feminism.
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Phoenix32890
 
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Reply Mon 15 May, 2006 08:12 am
Quote:
Love and Marriage

Love and marriage, love and marriage
Go together like a horse and carriage
This I tell you brother
You can't have one without the other

Love and marriage, love and marriage
It's an institute you can't disparage
Ask the local gentry
And they will say it's elementary

Try, try, try to separate them
It's an illusion
Try, try, try, and you will only come
To this conclusion

Love and marriage, love and marriage
Go together like a horse and carriage
Dad was told by mother
You can't have one without the other


"Old Blue Eyes", (Frank Sinatra, who knew quite a bit about love without marriage), made this song a popular hit.
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Lord Ellpus
 
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Reply Mon 15 May, 2006 08:19 am
Of course, we mustn't forget that Dads were totally under appreciated in those days.




DON'T JUMP OFF THE ROOF, DAD
Tommy Cooper - 1961


Daddy came home from work tired
His boss had been driving him mad.
The kids were all shouting, the dog bit him too
His dinner was nothing but boiled over stew.

I guess it was then he decided
Up to the rooftop he'd go
He was about to jump off when
The kids started howling below

'Don't jump off the roof, Dad
You'll make a hole in the yard
Mother's just planted petunias
The weeding and seeding was hard

If you must end it all, Dad
Won't you please give us a break
Just take a walk down the park, Dad
And there you can jump in the lake.'
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Phoenix32890
 
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Reply Mon 15 May, 2006 08:23 am
Quote:
Will You Still Love Me Tomorrow?

Tonight you're mine completely
You give you love so sweetly
Tonight the light of love is in your eyes
But will you love me tomorrow?

Is this a lasting treasure
Or just a moment's pleasure?
Can I believe the magic of your sighs?
Will you still love me tomorrow?

Tonight with words unspoken
You say that I'm the only one
But will my heart be broken
When the night meets the morning sun?

I'd like to know that your love
Is love I can be sure of
So tell me now, and I won't ask again
Will you still love me tomorrow?

(INSTRUMENTAL)

So tell me now, and I won't ask again
Will you still love me tomorrow?
Will you still love me tomorrow?
Will you still love me tomorrow?


One of the things that young girls struggled with, before the rise of feminism, was the whole concept of sexuality. There was a common expression that was bandied about, if a young girl "gave in" to the persuasion of her boyfriend. "Will he respect me in the morning?"

The above song well illustrated the conflict that was going on with teenage girls in the 1950's.
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Lord Ellpus
 
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Reply Mon 15 May, 2006 08:32 am
Of course, all the girls were called "Chicks", "Doll"....or in this case "Little Doll".
One thing remains pretty constant though.....the extremely sophisticated methods that men use, to romantically woo their dates.


COME OUTSIDE - 28/06/1962
2 weeks at #1 - 19 weeks on chart

Little doll we've been jiving all night long
(Little doll)
Little doll gotta feeling something's wrong
(Little doll)
Coz it aint right to wanna keep on dancing
There won't be any time left for romancing

Come outside, come outside
There's a lovely moon out there
Come outside, come outside
While we got time to spare

Little doll it seems ages since we kissed
(Little doll)
Little doll think of all the fun we've missed
(Little doll)
Coz it aint right to wanna keep on dancing
There won't be any time left for romancing

Chorus (her voice in brackets)
Come outside, (what for) come outside (whats the rush)
There's a lovely moon out there (it's cold outside)
Come outside, (why) come outside (you do keep on)
While we got time to spare (I want another twist)

Now I went and promised your old man
That we'd be home about half past ten
Seems we've got just one more jive
Then we'll be starting home again

Come outside,(get lost) come outside (go and ask lil)
There's a lovely moon out there (you can go off people)
Come outside, (give over) come outside (belt up)
While we got time to spare (why don't you listen to the beat)

Little doll I know the band ain't bad
(Little doll)
Little doll I'm a-getting kinda mad
(Little doll)
Coz it aint right to wanna keep on dancing
There won't be any time left for romancing

Come outside,(lay off) come outside (shove it)
There's a lovely moon out there (you are a one)
Come outside,(all right) come outside (not for too long)
While we got time for a bit of slap and tickle (I'll slap and tickle you in a minute)

Oh come out for a bit of.................
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panzade
 
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Reply Mon 15 May, 2006 08:38 am
Another quality thread Phoenix...I hope to contribute
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Bi-Polar Bear
 
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Reply Mon 15 May, 2006 08:39 am
The Lemon Song (still acceptable t certain bars)
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