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Reply Tue 2 May, 2006 11:16 am
Will you act?

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/05/02/opinion/02tue3.html?_r=1&th&emc=th&oref=slogin

May 2, 2006

Editorial
Keeping a Democratic Web

"Net neutrality" is a concept that is still unfamiliar to most Americans, but it keeps the Internet democratic. Cable and telephone companies that provide Internet service are talking about creating a two-tiered Internet, in which Web sites that pay them large fees would get priority over everything else. Opponents of these plans are supporting Net-neutrality legislation, which would require all Web sites to be treated equally. Net neutrality recently suffered a setback in the House, but there is growing hope that the Senate will take up the cause.

One of the Internet's great strengths is that a single blogger or a small political group can inexpensively create a Web page that is just as accessible to the world as Microsoft's home page. But this democratic Internet would be in danger if the companies that deliver Internet service changed the rules so that Web sites that pay them money would be easily accessible, while little-guy sites would be harder to access, and slower to navigate. Providers could also block access to sites they do not like.

That would be a financial windfall for Internet service providers, but a disaster for users, who could find their Web browsing influenced by whichever sites paid their service provider the most money. There is a growing movement of Internet users who are pushing for legislation to make this kind of discrimination impossible. It has attracted supporters ranging from MoveOn.org to the Gun Owners of America. Grass-roots political groups like these are rightly concerned that their online speech could be curtailed if Internet service providers were allowed to pick and choose among Web sites.

The House Energy and Commerce Committee defeated a good Net-neutrality amendment last week. But the amendment got more votes than many people expected, suggesting that support for Net neutrality is beginning to take hold in Congress. In the Senate, Olympia Snowe, a Maine Republican, and Byron Dorgan, a North Dakota Democrat, are drafting a strong Net-neutrality bill that would prohibit broadband providers from creating a two-tiered Internet. Senators who care about the Internet and Internet users should get behind it.
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DrewDad
 
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Reply Tue 2 May, 2006 12:15 pm
How is this any different than the uses to which the radio and TV spectrums have been put?

If they can afford to prioritize their traffic, then more power to 'em.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Tue 2 May, 2006 12:30 pm
True, but the internet as a universal communication tool will be divided between the rich and poor; not a good thing.
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DrewDad
 
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Reply Tue 2 May, 2006 12:45 pm
Hate to break it to you, but the division between rich and poor is a lot greater than who's website is the fastest.
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Phoenix32890
 
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Reply Tue 2 May, 2006 12:53 pm
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One of the Internet's great strengths is that a single blogger or a small political group can inexpensively create a Web page that is just as accessible to the world as Microsoft's home page.


Hey, in this world you get what you pay for. Why should a single blogger, or small political group, be subsidized by those sites which can afford to pay?

The internet is becoming gargantuan. One of the ways to control the proliferation of spurious sites is to charge for the internet services. Personally, I think that the government needs to keep its nose out of the internet, and let the market control it, not some bureaucrats!
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tin sword arthur
 
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Reply Tue 2 May, 2006 12:55 pm
That's true, DD, but the internet is accessable even to those without money. Every library I've ever seen has internet access for free. So that line, between rich and poor, for this subject is looked at in a whole new light.
The internet was going to be the last great expression of free speech, a place where you could go that everyone was given a fair shake. Now, that's being threatened by money. If you give your provider enough, you'll get the high speed access to your site and be listed first on search lists? That's bull. What will happen to the sites that are put there for free as part of their ISP? Some providers give you free space for your own webpage. If you don't pay, will you have access to that anymore? Will anyone?
I don't like this idea at all (obviously). Rates for connecting to the internet are falling. Don't find ways to bring them back up again.
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DrewDad
 
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Reply Tue 2 May, 2006 01:12 pm
tin_sword_arthur wrote:
That's true, DD, but the internet is accessable even to those without money. Every library I've ever seen has internet access for free. So that line, between rich and poor, for this subject is looked at in a whole new light.
The internet was going to be the last great expression of free speech, a place where you could go that everyone was given a fair shake. Now, that's being threatened by money. If you give your provider enough, you'll get the high speed access to your site and be listed first on search lists? That's bull. What will happen to the sites that are put there for free as part of their ISP? Some providers give you free space for your own webpage. If you don't pay, will you have access to that anymore? Will anyone?
I don't like this idea at all (obviously). Rates for connecting to the internet are falling. Don't find ways to bring them back up again.

They're not talking about charging the consumer, they're talking about charging the provider. Just as TV and radio are free to the consumer. Do you think we shouldn't allow "paid programming" to be on TV?

And search engines already put sites that have paid for advertising ahead of other sites in the search results.

One of the best products I've ever seen would give someone a computer with which to access the Internet, so long as they were willing to view the occasional ad.

So no one is talking about depriving the poor of Internet access.
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tin sword arthur
 
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Reply Tue 2 May, 2006 01:37 pm
DrewDad wrote:
They're not talking about charging the consumer, they're talking about charging the provider. Just as TV and radio are free to the consumer. Do you think we shouldn't allow "paid programming" to be on TV?

But I'm afraid that charging the providers more will cause them to raise their rates. I hope I'm wrong, but I'm afraid I won't be. We already pay quite a bit for internet access. Raise the rates for one, raise the rates for all.
What kind of preferential treatment are we talking about here? How much harder will it be to find the smaller sites? The mom-and-pops that charge less for their products and services? Will some be forced to go with the higher priced services because they will be just unable to find anything else? And certain sites will be unable to be viewed just because some provider's CEO doesn't like it?
And "paid programming" is just sports and porn. Only one of which interests me and is widely available on the internet. Try to guess which!
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Tue 2 May, 2006 02:06 pm
tsa, You have it spot on; the providers will increase their fee when they pay more for anything. I still haven't seen cable tv service fees drop, but increase on a regular basis. I think my wife pays almost $100/month for cable. You can bet your bottom dollar, that's going to continue its upward spiral. To think providers will not cover their cost is fundamentally based on ignorance.
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