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Balcony gardening

 
 
Tico
 
Reply Sat 15 Apr, 2006 06:56 pm
For almost 20 years I've lived in a house with a huge yard (by city standards) and learned to contend with clay soil, creatures of all types, scale (a dozen tulips just wouldn't make a statement), micro- and macro-climatic zones. Before that, I lived in apartments without balconies. In January, I moved into an apartment condominium with a small, 5'x15' balcony.

I need help to make this balcony a livable area. The view is fabulous (by city standards). I'm on the 6th floor, overlooking a ravine. When the trees finally leaf out, I will see nothing but treetops and sky.

The balcony faces northwest. It doesn't get sun until 3 p.m. The wind is wicked ~ what is a gentle breeze on the ground, feels like a gale up here. There is no wall enclosing it at all, except for the completely glass wall of the building face.

So far I have a large (illegal) terra cotta chiminea which I'll either use for candles or a planter, a 4'x6' matchstick bamboo carpet, and a 12"x36" bronze planter box. I went out to a garden centre today to look at plants, and disappointedly came back with just some ribbon grass and pansies. I kept thinking about what that wind would do to anything with height. And I worried that something like a potted skyrocket juniper wouldn't survive a winter. Although the area is classified as zone 6, I think this exposed balcony is more like a zone 3.

Any tips? Favourite web sites? Anecdotes?
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gustavratzenhofer
 
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Reply Sat 15 Apr, 2006 07:14 pm
tico wrote:
I'm on the 6th floor, overlooking a ravine.


A man with a view of a ravine is living life correctly.
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littlek
 
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Reply Sat 15 Apr, 2006 07:22 pm
Does the wind come from one direction? If so, could you erect a sort of wind barrier without blocking too much view or sun? I'm thinking something like a lattice trellis.
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Tico
 
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Reply Sat 15 Apr, 2006 08:06 pm
And how about a woman, Gus? Not only that but this woman doesn't have blinds yet, but don't tell Kickycan. :wink:

littlek ~ no, the wind comes from all directions. I did look at lattice panels -- one in particular that was made of twigs and small branches (I like the naturalistic look) -- but I'm not sure how I would securely fasten it. One night in February the wind was so strong it lifted the chiminea. That thing took 2 men to move in here. I'm hoping that the summer winds are much less ferocious.
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littlek
 
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Reply Sat 15 Apr, 2006 08:07 pm
Yowza - that's a strong gust!
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gustavratzenhofer
 
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Reply Sat 15 Apr, 2006 08:12 pm
Kris, I am in first place over at the poker site, and if I can hold on I will win five grand.

Wish me luck.
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littlek
 
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Reply Sat 15 Apr, 2006 08:32 pm
good luck.
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gustavratzenhofer
 
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Reply Sat 15 Apr, 2006 08:33 pm
I just took a nasty hit and dropped to third place.

Stay tuned.
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Sat 15 Apr, 2006 09:50 pm
I woke up this morning to what I thought was someone sledgehammering, perhaps two houses away.. turned out to be wind, but a short lived wind. Hmmm.
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Noddy24
 
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Reply Sun 16 Apr, 2006 10:43 am
Tico--

Wait six months. In the heat of summer you may be glad for those capricious winds.
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Tico
 
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Reply Sun 16 Apr, 2006 02:41 pm
Noddy ~ I'm hoping that the warm weather comes sooner than 6 months, but yes, I believe that I'll be grateful for the wind. I'm looking forward to sitting in the sunshine, reading a book amid my little landscape.
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Wed 19 Apr, 2006 10:03 am
tico - there's a seminar at Harbourfront Centre on May 6th on balcony gardening

http://www.harbourfrontcentre.com/learning/learningForLiving.php

and then there is

http://www.civicgardencentre.org/mastergardener.htm
< Ask a Toronto Master Gardener >

Good luck!
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Tico
 
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Reply Thu 20 Apr, 2006 11:37 am
Thanks, ehBeth!
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Fri 9 Jun, 2006 04:34 pm
Hi Tico - thought of you today when I looked up some of the summer festivals at Harbourfront.

Did you get your balcony garden sorted out?
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dlowan
 
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Reply Fri 9 Jun, 2006 06:39 pm
Oy...I hadn't seen this thread before.


I have a similarish balcony.


Ficus Benjaminas (in my case "Tom Thumb") are the sole survivors so far...and they look great!
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Noddy24
 
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Reply Sun 11 Jun, 2006 06:50 pm
Drainage, drainage, drainage.

I'm back from visiting a friend who is creating a courtyard garden. The "soil" is untold years of coal ash covered with cement, so she doing container gardening.

The east coast has been rained on recently with vigor and enthusiasm. Small drainage holes just weren't enough.
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Sun 11 Jun, 2006 06:54 pm
Coal ash and cement (concrete?)... now there's a problem I've never faced..
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Noddy24
 
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Reply Mon 12 Jun, 2006 11:54 am
For the most part the ashes from the old coal furnace are covered with an uneven surface of concrete.

I'm pleased to report that in spite of the rains, the greenery that was well drained is thriving.
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Sat 26 May, 2007 05:48 pm
Tico - how are the balcony plans coming this year?

~~~~~

I thought of you earlier today. I was out at Doors Open with a couple of friends. We were at a The Kitchen event at the St. Lawrence Market and saw the schedule - last week they had
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Potted herbs from your patio or balcony! MARVIN GARDENS' (Farmers' Market) special sale and growing information on thyme, basil, rosemary and more, plus herb tasting.


I'd suggest keeping an eye on this page http://www.stlawrencemarket.com/about/news.html for any similar events coming up on future Saturdays.

We learned a lot about CHURASSCO today. (great great samples during a lecture on Portuguese rotisserie barbecuing style and the flavours it creates.)
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Tico
 
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Reply Sat 26 May, 2007 07:43 pm
Thanks, ehBeth.

This year, I'm keeping it very simple -- white geraniums and pots of wild grasses. It's not a big space, and the winds and intense afternoon sunlight make it a hostile growing environment. So ... baby steps. Watering is problematic: Too much rots the roots because there is no real drainage, too little and the plants become stressed in a very short time. It's a much bigger challenge than my former terrestial garden, but much cheaper.

Another problem is my cats. I reserved a corner for them with a large, low circular planter of cat grass with a terra cotta pot inserted to hold water. Over that is arching a wonderfully twisted tree branch (found in the ravine) for them to climb over, pretend to be mountain lions, and scratch. The problem ... it seems the wild grasses among the geraniums are more fun and tasty than the cat grass. Rolling Eyes

Last year's plants were sad and spent by August, partly because of the environment and partly because I had purchased Loblaws' Gigantico varieties. I've learned since that these Gigantico plants are grown in California where they can be started far earlier than our own (hence their size) but because of that their lifespan and hardiness is less than local stuff.

I really must get over to Edwards Gardens and the Toronto Botanical Society -- it's so close and apparently has scads of resource material.
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