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Smokers are dumb

 
 
Reply Wed 22 Mar, 2006 11:09 am
I can kind of understand how people of past generations smoke; back in the day people weren't as aware of just how bad it is for you.

I'm wondering, why the hell anyone in recent times would START smoking? I know it's addicting, and hard to quit, but people who start smoking know it's addicting as well. So why the hell would anyone with half a brain today think to themselves, "hey, I really want to try cigarettes."

It's a f'n drug that does nothing of significance. Alcohol gets you drunk, weed gets you high...cigarettes make you smell and look like an idiot.

Thoughts?
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Setanta
 
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Reply Wed 22 Mar, 2006 11:11 am
Yes, i thought i'd note that cigarettes actually impair the ability to smell--but they do make people stink.
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shewolfnm
 
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Reply Wed 22 Mar, 2006 11:11 am
wich in turn effects your sense of taste
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DrewDad
 
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Reply Wed 22 Mar, 2006 11:17 am
The first few cigarettes restrict the capillaries and make you high.

I understand the effect tapers off quickly, however.
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Slappy Doo Hoo
 
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Reply Wed 22 Mar, 2006 11:26 am
DrewDad wrote:
The first few cigarettes restrict the capillaries and make you high.

I understand the effect tapers off quickly, however.


Yes, the nicotine does that. I've tried "dip" once or twice and got pretty dizzy off of it. And I've heard that too, the high feeling goes away.
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DrewDad
 
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Reply Wed 22 Mar, 2006 11:29 am
Talk about a disgusting habit....

How many times have you drank out of the spit cup?
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Wed 22 Mar, 2006 11:29 am
Nicotine gum has a similar effect, as we've recently discovered chez moi.

Setanta tells a good joke after a coupla chaws on a fresh piece of nicotine gum.
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Slappy Doo Hoo
 
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Reply Wed 22 Mar, 2006 11:34 am
DrewDad wrote:
Talk about a disgusting habit....

How many times have you drank out of the spit cup?


I had a roomate who did that constantly, and would leave his spit cups everywhere. Not quite as dumb as smoking though, at least you're not making everything around you stink.
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Treya
 
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Reply Wed 22 Mar, 2006 11:53 am
Well... speaking as one who has smoked for almost 18 years... OMG... When I started I didn't know it was addictive. I thought it was a gross habit. Yet, a friend of mine kept offering me cigarette's and I thought, "What the heck?" So did. Here I sit, almost 18 years later, having tried every quit smoking aid on the market. Yes even wellbutrin... which by the way gave me some pretty wicked dreams! OIY... And now I wonder... What the heck was I thinking? I think if I could be locked away in a room somewhere for about a week, and maybe someone throw me a meal or two a day, I might be able to quit. Other than that though... I'm at a loss... Confused
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Green Witch
 
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Reply Wed 22 Mar, 2006 12:05 pm
The problem is adults don't start smoking, children do. I would have thought the generation behind me would have seen through the cigarette companies corporate weasel tactics, but kids seem more controlled by marketing than ever before. What I don't understand is how a person can't be grossed out by the whole activity- it makes you and your home stink, it makes you age faster and in the end will probably kill you.

I also want to know why smokers think its OK to throw their filthy butts into the environment. We have home business and we have had customers put their cigarettes out in our parking area that is surrounded by a garden. Butts do not just disappear, they can sit around and look ugly for years amongst the pebbles. Despite polite signs nothing seems to stop these rude addicts.
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Slappy Doo Hoo
 
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Reply Wed 22 Mar, 2006 12:15 pm
It's not just kids that start. I have a few friends that started in their early twenties.
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Treya
 
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Reply Wed 22 Mar, 2006 12:16 pm
Yes I know what you mean green witch. The thing that sucks the worst for me is that others see me do it and think it's "ok" because I do. The kids now a days are looking for anything they think will make them look "cool". (that much hasn't changed) They aren't worried about what adults think about it, as a matter a fact, with a lot of them the more adults say no, the more they want to do it because it's that much more tantalizing.

As far as throwing the butts on the ground... that is rude and disrespectful. I agree. I don't do that because I see that the same as driving down the highway throwing your McDonalds bag out the window when you are done eating. I won't even smoke around people who don't smoke. Even if they tell me they don't mind, I still don't feel comfortable doing it. *shrugs* I know it's gross. I hate the fact that I smell like a chimney. Yet this is what look like if I go too long without one... Shocked LOL
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shewolfnm
 
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Reply Wed 22 Mar, 2006 12:18 pm
Ok.
Im up for slaughter.

I smoke.
I have smoked for almost 20 years like hep.

I dont smoke in my car, in my home, or even in my garage.
I hate the smell of stale cigarette smoke. And , the wierd thing is I hate it when I go into someones house and they smoke indoors.
Why? Why sit in that smoke 24/7 ?
I know smoking is bad for your health yadda yadda yadda..
addiction at this age is stronger then knowledge.
Sadly enough.

I dont throw out my butts.
I too hate that.
The earth is not an ashtray.
Put your cigarette out and find a trash can. If there is no trash can, keep it in your car, or pocket until you can find one.
I rip the paper off the cigarette and stamp that out . I use organic / thin papers that rinse away and only have soy based inks.

( yes, im truly wierd about my smokes )

I keep the butts until I can throw them away.


I dont think smoking should be allowed inside ANY WHERE. Not even bars.
Its gross, its toxic..

I think about it this way-
Would you sit in a garage with cars running?
No
So why sit in cigarette smoke wich has almost , if not more toxins in it then car exhaust?
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Treya
 
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Reply Wed 22 Mar, 2006 12:27 pm
I agree... smoking inside is one of the worst things! It makes me gag. I can't imagine how it must feel for non-smokers. I was really ticked when restaurants stopped having smoking area's at first. Truthfully speaking it was because I didn't feel like getting up to go outside and smoke. Rolling Eyes Then I realized the wonders of eating a meal without someone's second hand smoke floating around your face. ACK!
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Gargamel
 
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Reply Wed 22 Mar, 2006 12:46 pm
I started when I was 16 and quit the first time when I was 20. Then started up two years later and quit at 25. Haven't smoked for two years.

I started smoking on boring summer afternoons in the 'burbs, when the guitarist in my band would break a string and we had to walk across town to Wade's guitar shop. Sitting against a garage in an alley smoking and talking about our songs was awesome. I don't see why it's so hard to believe why teenagers would smoke. It's rebellious, it packs a buzz, etc.

A few years later I realized cigarettes are AWESOME with beer. And they are also awesome when you first discover Jack Kerouac, Hemingway, etc. At this point smoking is a ritual. And that is something a nonsmoker or a "weekend" smoker cannot understand or appreciate. Every cigarette is a "time out" when you can think and enjoy the breeze for seven mintues at a time. And CHILL.

Cigarettes also great after: food, sex.

Eventually it gets old. I got sick of waking up with **** in my throat. I was up to two packs a day. It's expensive, too, as we all know.

But I don't understand why nonsmokers get all pissed about it. As long as smokers respect your space, and ask before they light up in front of you, who cares? And if you REALLY cared about the air you breathe you'd walk more often and use public transportation. You'd recycle and cut down on the amount of plastic you use.

Why do people eat fast food? Or processed food like boxed mac n' cheese? Obesity is qucikly becoming the leading cause of preventable death in this country. Nobody ever seems to care if someone pounds two cheeseburgers in their vicinity.
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Slappy Doo Hoo
 
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Reply Wed 22 Mar, 2006 01:01 pm
I don't really care people smoke, unless they're next to me in a crowded place.

And it makes sense why you started. I still don't understand how someone old enough than a teenager, who knows all the crap about it, finds it appealing when starting.
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Gargamel
 
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Reply Wed 22 Mar, 2006 01:06 pm
Starting after age 20 is a bit baffling. I always thought it was funny when really stupid drunk girls in my dorm freshman and sophomore year became smokers, and only two years before they were on the cheerleading squad scoffing at the likes of us addicted rogues.
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dagmaraka
 
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Reply Wed 22 Mar, 2006 01:07 pm
hephzibah wrote:
I agree... smoking inside is one of the worst things! It makes me gag. I can't imagine how it must feel for non-smokers. I was really ticked when restaurants stopped having smoking area's at first. Truthfully speaking it was because I didn't feel like getting up to go outside and smoke. Rolling Eyes Then I realized the wonders of eating a meal without someone's second hand smoke floating around your face. ACK!


that's how i stopped. motivation gone. no people smoking around, no reason for me to smoke. hurrah for the smoking ban!
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Bella Dea
 
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Reply Wed 22 Mar, 2006 01:12 pm
I started in college because everyone else was chain smoking all night at the bars and I figured, what the hell...at least I'll have a filter behind all of this inhaled smoke.

It started as just a weekend habit. Smoke while drinking. Then it turned into a smoke now and then on the way to class. Then to smoking every day on the way to class. It's weird how it evolves.

Anyway, I quit a while back but started up again. Then, about 1 1/2 months ago, I got a bacterial lung infection that nearly sent me to the hospital (pulse of 130, fever...nasty) and I quit. I have had 2 cigs since. Both while drinking. After being smoke free for a few weeks, man they taste like ****. But beer makes me seriously crave one.

I know they are bad for me. In so many ways, not includeing the obvious lung cancer and what not. I am an asthmatic so quitting is twice as bad as it is for most people on the physical end here. I have more asthma attacks after stopping smoking than I do while smoking because my body is trying desperatly to clean itself.

Trying to remain smoke free but its hard.

At the very least, I will continue to be a social smoker, smoking only occasionally while out at the bar or whatnot. I mean, until they make eveyrhting smoke free, a nonsmoker is just as much at risk as a smoker...why not give in to my urge? :wink:
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Green Witch
 
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Reply Wed 22 Mar, 2006 01:12 pm
I think i once read that the average age most people start is 14.

I know smoking doesn't make someone a bad person, but it does make them a corporate profit slave. Same is true of those addicted to McDonalds and Budweiser. You get sick and the CEO's get rich.
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