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So, How Many Smegging Angels CAN Dance on the Head of a Pin?

 
 
dlowan
 
Reply Thu 1 May, 2003 08:13 am
As many of you know, our Fearless Founder, Craven, is on a weird and wonderful spiritual dilemmas spree.

Several times he has skirted this most intriguing theological/philosophical question, without ever engaging it.

So - here it is - the question asked by so many and answered by so few - brought to you in the spirit of joy and lightness with which one would associate such an activity:

Just How Many Smegging Angels CAN Dance on the Head of a Pin? (and why would they do it?)

Oh - this is by way of being a digression thread, so feel free to dance and meander and dilly and dally and such....

Here a few references - and, to begin, apparently whatever they do and however many do it, it is ACTUALLY on the point of a fine needle....


http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a4_132.html

http://www.cin.org/archives/cet/200102/0006.html

http://www.rggallery.com/jcdancep.php

http://www.liv.ac.uk/Philosophy/angels.html

http://www.rockinauburn.com/columns/angelpin.html
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cavfancier
 
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Reply Thu 1 May, 2003 08:17 am
Grr...edit function not working...so I replace my first post with this Evil or Very Mad
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cavfancier
 
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Reply Thu 1 May, 2003 08:18 am
Hmm, my guess, there is not a lot to amuse the angels these days, being immortal and all, so seeing how many can dance on the head of a pin is probably akin to the wacky 'how many frat boys can fit into a phonebooth' antics of the '50s and '60s.
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Heeven
 
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Reply Thu 1 May, 2003 08:30 am
I think that is a very dangerous activity and no angel would do it! What if she slips? Oh nooo, no longer an angel?
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cavfancier
 
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Reply Thu 1 May, 2003 08:38 am
I thought angels were sexless...at least, lacking genitals, like Barbie and Ken...
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Equus
 
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Reply Thu 1 May, 2003 08:41 am
None- they are all Baptists.
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Eva
 
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Reply Thu 1 May, 2003 08:55 am
Funny, Equus!

Methinks some of you have too much time on your hands...
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dlowan
 
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Reply Thu 1 May, 2003 08:57 am
Here is a lovely poem that Debacle sent me once - it is sort of on topic - sadly, the author's name has been lost in my copying process:

Questions About Angels

Of all the questions you might want to ask
about angels, the only one you ever hear
is how many can dance on the head of a pin.

No curiosity about how they pass the eternal time
besides circling the Throne chanting in Latin
or delivering a crust of bread to a hermit on earth
or guiding a boy and girl across a rickety wooden bridge.

Do they fly through God's body and come out singing?
Do they swing like children from the hinges
of the spirit world saying their names backwards and
forwards?
Do they sit alone in little gardens changing colors?

What about their sleeping habits, the fabric of their robes,
their diet of unfiltered divine light?
What goes on inside their luminous heads? Is there a wall
these tall presences can look over and see hell?

If an angel fell off a cloud, would he leave a hole
in a river and would the hole float along endlessly
filled with the silent letters of every angelic word?

If an angel delivered the mail, would he arrive
in a blinding rush of wings or would he just assume
the appearance of the regular mailman and
whistle up the driveway reading the postcards?

No, the medieval theologians control the court.
The only question you ever hear is about
the little dance floor on the head of a pin
where halos are meant to converge and drift invisibly.

It is designed to make us think of millions,
billions, to make us run out of numbers and collapse
into infinity, but perhaps the answer is simply one:
one female angel dancing alone in her stocking feet,
a small jazz combo working in the background.

She sways like a branch in the wind, her beautiful
eyes closed, and the tall thin bassist leans over
to glance at his watch because she has been dancing
forever, and now it is very late, even for musicians.
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dlowan
 
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Reply Thu 1 May, 2003 09:00 am
Heeven - I think thay are not made of ordinary matter! If the worst occurred, I believe their "airy substance" (as Pope called the material of which his guardian sylphs were made in "The Rape of the Lock") would but part, and "soon unite(s) again.

can the ineffable fall?
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patiodog
 
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Reply Thu 1 May, 2003 09:00 am
Well, if by "angels" you mean "bacteria," go ahead and give it a count...
http://www.blc.arizona.edu/INTERACTIVE/cells3l/bacteria2.gif
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dlowan
 
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Reply Thu 1 May, 2003 09:02 am
Do they dance for joy, or boredom, or in ecstasy?
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blueveinedthrobber
 
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Reply Thu 1 May, 2003 09:05 am
right equus sexless....baptists.... a rose by any other name....

Q: Why don't Baptists have sex standing up?

A: They don't want Jesus to think they're dancing....

an oldie but a goodie.
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patiodog
 
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Reply Thu 1 May, 2003 09:09 am
(damn, he beat me to it.)
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dlowan
 
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Reply Thu 1 May, 2003 09:11 am
I came, I saw, I kept silent...
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patiodog
 
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Reply Thu 1 May, 2003 09:13 am
Or the Paul Reuben's version of the story...

"I saw, I came, I have the right to remain silent..."
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dlowan
 
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Reply Thu 1 May, 2003 09:15 am
hee hee - actually, I am such a smart arse that the baptist joke is, by implication, in the poll - in reverse order!
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cavfancier
 
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Reply Thu 1 May, 2003 09:18 am
Last I heard, angels were not only right, but also acute, obtuse and straight. Quite a community up there in heaven! Heh heh, acute angel...
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dlowan
 
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Reply Thu 1 May, 2003 09:20 am
Hmmmmmmm - there's geometry in heaven, then?

But, is not geometry, by its very name, an earthbound thing?
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cavfancier
 
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Reply Thu 1 May, 2003 09:28 am
Is not math in general the true cornerstone of an ordered universe that could only be created by a higher power? Are not our puny efforts to understand math in earth terms just a reflection of how little we actually understand about heaven, and God's great plan? HA! Take that bunny! Wink Joshing, of course. Actually, I think the universe is not so much ordered as it is in a state of constant flux...any theoretical physicists out there?
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patiodog
 
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Reply Thu 1 May, 2003 09:31 am
huh. you'd probably like this "variable speed of light" guy...

http://www.discover.com/apr_03/featspeed.html

(yeah, i read the heavy journals...)
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