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brahmin
 
Reply Tue 7 Mar, 2006 10:15 am
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/4782618.stm




Indian temple city hit by blasts


At least 12 people have been killed after two explosions in the northern Indian pilgrimage city of Varanasi.

Senior superintendent of police Paresh Pandey told the BBC Hindi service that at least 30 others had been injured.

The first explosion occurred at a Hindu temple and was followed by at least another blast at a railway station. Police were trying to defuse a third.

Varanasi - in the northern state of Uttar Pradesh - is a major pilgrimage centre in India.

The city, about 670 km (415 miles) south-east of the capital Delhi, attracts large numbers of Indians as well as foreign tourists.



Pandemonium

The first explosion took place in the major temple in the city, the Sankot Mochan temple dedicated to the Hindu God Hanuman.

Several people were killed and 22 injured in the blast, officials said.

An eyewitness, Siddharth Suri, told the BBC that thousands of people were at the temple at the time of the blast.

Tuesday is a special day at the Sankat Mochan temple and the explosion took place just minutes before the main worship.

"There was a loud explosion followed by dust. There was pandemonium in the front of the temple," Mr Suri said.

At about 1830 local time (1300 GMT) the complex would have been packed with worshippers and the fear is the explosion was timed to have maximum impact, the BBC's Nadvip Dhariwal in Delhi reports.

A spokesman at the Heritage hospital close to the site of the temple said 10 people brought to the hospital were in a "critical condition".

He said they were suffering from splinter and burn injuries.

A second bomb went off at the main railway station just minutes after the first blast, with eyewitnesses saying they saw a number of casualties.

Police said a team of experts were trying to defuse a third bomb on one bank of the River Ganges.

The BBC's Ram Dutt Tripathi, who is Varanasi, says shops in the city shut down after the explosions and police are trying to secure the site.

Major cities across India, including the capital Delhi, were put on high alert, following the explosions.

Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh has condemned the blasts and appealed for calm, a spokesman from his office said.
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brahmin
 
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Reply Tue 7 Mar, 2006 10:16 am
http://www.ndtv.com/breakingnews/default.asp?refno=37200682146PM


Triple blasts in Varanasi, 12 killed

NDTV Correspondent

Tuesday, March 7, 2006: (Varanasi)

At least 12 people have been killed after triple blasts rocked parts of Varanasi on Tuesday evening.

Several others have been injured in the blasts, which took place between 6:15-6:30 pm (IST).

The Home Ministry has confirmed the blasts occurred at Sankat Mochan Temple and the railway station in the cantonment area. The third blast reportedly took place on the Shiv Ganga Express.

Area cordoned off

The injured have been taken to the SS Hospital in the Benaras Hindu University campus.
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Senior officials of the district administration have reached the spot and the affected areas have been cordoned off.

The Uttar Pradesh government has announced a compensation of Rs five lakh for the dead and Rs one lakh for the seriously injured.



Cutting across party lines, leaders from across the country have slammed the attacks.

Prime Minister Manmohan Singh condemned the blasts and appealed for calm.

He also spoke to UP Chief Minister Mulayam Singh Yadav on the issue.

Home Minister Shivraj Patil, who will visit Varanasi on Wednesday, said the blasts were a desperate attempt to disturb communal peace.

Expressing his sympathies with the bereaved families, President APJ Abdul Kalam said he was sure that the UP government will ensure peace and order there.

BJP President Rajnath Singh held the Centre the responsible for the blasts, blaming its "soft" policies towards terrorism.

Singh also blamed the "minority appeasement politics" of the Samajwadi Party government in Uttar Pradesh for the attacks.

A red alert has been sounded throughout Uttar Pradesh and the police have also been put on high alert in several parts of the country.

The Centre has placed 500 CRPF personnel at the disposal of the state government for deployment in sensitive areas to maintain law and order.
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brahmin
 
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Reply Tue 7 Mar, 2006 10:29 am
Eyewitness: Varanasi temple blast

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/4783126.stm


Many people have been killed after explosions in the Indian pilgrimage town of Varanasi.

The BBC News website spoke to Francesca Marino who was close to the temple at the time of the explosion and witnessed the ensuing chaos.

Suddenly people started to run, streaming past me away from the temple. People were screaming, saying that there had been a big bomb blast.

Initially, we heard that only a couple of children had been injured. But now they are saying that people have died.

It was terrible.

It's Tuesday, a holy day, and the area was packed with people going to pray at the temples. Everything is surrounded with noise, shops, lights and high-volume music.

There was such chaos anyway, it was difficult to know what exactly was happening.

'Communal tension'

I was at the Durga temple and chatting to a shopkeeper when more crowds came and advised that shops close down. It seemed like people wanted to go and throw stones in protest. This is not the first time this has happened here.

The mosque is close to the Golden Temple here and there is a lot of communal tension. There have been riots between Hindus and Muslims in the past.

That was how the situation seemed to be unfolding but now everything is quiet. The shops are still closed and people are going home.

It has been a sad day.





its just funny how reactions and condolence messages pour in when ever there is a blast in londoin or Bali or madrid or even a nick berg like incident.... where as everybody just cold shoulders every incident of innocent hindus being killed by the same terrorist aka muslim ilk who do the london and bali bombings.
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sozobe
 
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Reply Tue 7 Mar, 2006 10:31 am
It does sound terrible. Thank you for the information, as I hadn't read about it elsewhere -- which is itself rather sad, I agree.
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brahmin
 
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Reply Tue 7 Mar, 2006 10:45 am
welcome and thankyou.

if you've been reading the "not so smart travellers" thread, i was in Varanasi, in those very spots about a fortnight back.
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brahmin
 
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Reply Tue 7 Mar, 2006 01:08 pm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_pictures/4783820.stm

in pictures.
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Steve 41oo
 
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Reply Tue 7 Mar, 2006 01:27 pm
brahmin wrote:
welcome and thankyou.

if you've been reading the "not so smart travellers" thread, i was in Varanasi, in those very spots about a fortnight back.
I thought you might be still there actually, glad to learn you are ok.

Do you think the timing of these bombs had any significance? i.e. is it a special religious festival now in Varanasi?
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brahmin
 
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Reply Tue 7 Mar, 2006 03:32 pm
good question.

every tuesday its a special day at the particular temple where the explosion occured.

and this http://www.thecolorsofindia.com/ festival is on the 15th of March.

you could watch it in your local town amongst expats too.
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brahmin
 
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Reply Wed 8 Mar, 2006 02:29 am
CHRONOLOGY - Major attacks in India in the past five years
Tue Mar 7, 2006 11:49 PM IST173


Reuters - At least 15 people were killed and 60 wounded in three explosions in the north Indian Hindu pilgrimage city of Varanasi on Tuesday, police said.

Following is a chronology of some major attacks in the past five years in a country facing revolts in several areas and often hit by sectarian and communal violence.

Oct. 1, 2001 - Militants storm the Jammu and Kashmir state assembly complex, killing about 35.

Dec. 13 - More than a dozen people, including five gunmen, die in an attack on the parliament complex in New Delhi.

Sep. 2002 - Militants with guns and explosives attack the Akshardham Hindu temple in Gujarat, killing 31 and wounding more than 80.

May 14 - Militants attack an army camp near Kashmir's winter capital Jammu, killing more than 30, including several wives and children of soldiers.

Aug 25, 2003 - Two almost simultaneous car bombs kill about 60 in the financial and entertainment capital Mumbai.

Aug 15, 2004 - Bomb explodes in Assam, killing 16 people, mostly school children, and wounding dozens.

Oct. 29, 2005 - Sixty-six people are killed when three blasts tear through markets in the capital New Delhi.

yesterday - VARANASI BLASTS.


Source: Reuters
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brahmin
 
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Reply Wed 8 Mar, 2006 02:33 am
MEANWHILE,.....


Jamiat seeks reservation for minorities in Parliament
New Delhi, May 30,2005 (PTI): The Jamiat-Ulama-i-Hind on Sunday demanded reservation for Muslims in Parliament, Legislative Assemblies and Government jobs and extended support to the 'model nikahnama' prepared by the All India Muslim Personal Law Board.

At the end of its 28th All India General Session held here, the Jamiat adopted a series of resolutions, which included demand for removal of restrictions on reservations based on religion, passing a Riot Prevention Act and immediate release of those arrested under POTA.

Claiming that minority people are being harassed in Assam, the meeting, chaired by the Jamiat president Maulana Asaad Madani, termed the backlash against illegal migrants in the State as "plan to turn the State into another Gujarat."

During the two-day General Session of the Jamiat, Ulamas from all parts of the country held talks on various matters concerning the community, which included protection of women's rights, constitutional status to Minority Educational Commission, compensation to the victims of communal riots, sacrilege of holy Koran by the US forces.






Within year, the barmaid (sonia gandhi) led UPA govt had fulfilled JUIH's every single demand in letter and spirit

1) demand for removal of restrictions on reservations based on religion (DONE)
2) passing a Riot Prevention Act (DONE)
3) immediate release of those arrested under POTA (In PROCESS)
4) Claiming that minority people are being harassed in Assam (DONE)
5) constitutional status to Minority Educational Commission (DONE)
6) compensation to the victims of communal riots (DONE)
7) Jobs in every government and private institution (In PROCESS)
What else they had promised.

All above will guarantee Muslim votes to Congress.

But now muslims are getting involved in foreign policy which is a big shock for Sonia and that is why yesterday she called emergeny meeting before blast.



WHY THE HELL DOES INDIA CLAIM TO BE A SECULAR COUNTRY WHEN MUSLIMS ARE TREATED SPECIALLY JUST COS OF THEIR RELIGION???
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vinsan
 
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Reply Wed 8 Mar, 2006 03:28 am
Steve (as 41oo) wrote:
brahmin wrote:
welcome and thankyou.

if you've been reading the "not so smart travellers" thread, i was in Varanasi, in those very spots about a fortnight back.
I thought you might be still there actually, glad to learn you are ok.

Do you think the timing of these bombs had any significance? i.e. is it a special religious festival now in Varanasi?


Basically Holi is still a week away....

Believers say Saturday is the Day of Hanuman (Hindu Monkey God of Power and Trouble Shooting). But in North India (where Varanasi is located), Tuesday is considered the day of Hanuman .

Sankatmochan, the Temple place in Varanasi where the first bomb blast took place is the Temple of Hanuman. So it was obviously crowded that day.

And I also agree with Brahmin about "How coolly this matter has been treated in the World Media". This is like bombing the Vatican while a Christian mass.
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brahmin
 
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Reply Wed 8 Mar, 2006 03:43 am
if morning shows the day, then expect more blasts like this in stategic sites and holy cities, ON THE DAY OF HOLI.
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brahmin
 
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Reply Wed 8 Mar, 2006 03:59 am
vinsan wrote:


Believers say Saturday is the Day of Hanuman (Hindu Monkey God of Power and Trouble Shooting).


Hanuman is not a hindu monkey god.

Hanuman is a character from the epic Ramayan, modelled on tribal indians of australoid or astro-asiatic origin. In reality, one particular tribal man become a big disciple of Raam and helped him a lot. Its on that person that the character of man-monkey Hanuman is based on.


Since he was of immense help to Raam, the king of Ayodhya, and the hero of the epic Ramayan, hanuman is reverred and worshipped.

In reality, Ramayan was written a good few hundred (in fact thousand) years after the Vedas were composed. And hindu society was doing just fine during the time being. Hanuman is not a god that has ANY mention in the Vedas. Hanuman-reverence is a socio-cultural thing, that has taken religious proportions over time. In reality it has little to do with hinduism as such, since there is no mention of any "monkey-god" in vedas, nor any scripture about him in pre-ramayan hindu religious literature.

The reason why he is the "deity" of the so called "sankat mochan" (which literally means "end-er of bad times. sankat = trouble. mochan = quell or douse. sankat mochan = to be rid of trouble) temple, is because the tribal person on whom hanuman's character is based on, did precisely that - help raam overcome his troubles and problems.


BTW, even Holi is not a festival as such (no scripture, no mantra, no reference ion Veda). It was a cultural practice (to play with colours, to celebrate the comming of Spring or "vasant" as its called in india) thats taken religious proportions. It origin goes back to Vrindavan, in the same province as Varanasi, where one of the top players of this colour-game was a cow-herd called Krishna, who was later deified as an avatar of Vishnu (ie. its believed that Vishnu, the god of preservation of the world, showed up as Krishna, the epitome of a superman. Raam btw, is also deified as an avatar of Vishnu. Raam is considered the epitome of the "ideal man") and is the mentor of the hero (Arjun) of the epic Mahabharat. The practice of Holi also started many years after the Vedas were written and hindu society was doing just fine in that period between Vedas and Mahabharat.
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Reply Wed 8 Mar, 2006 04:14 am
i think it would be good to the world if every government strightly follow some rules to avoid these kind of activists .

IT WOULD BE GOOD IF WE BRING A LAW ON PERSONS WHO ENCOURAGE THESE KIND OF THINGS ????


AM DOUBTFULL ????
" IS IT A POLITICAL WAR " ???


BETWEEN V.H.P & OTHER MUSLIM ACTIVISTS
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brahmin
 
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Reply Wed 8 Mar, 2006 04:28 am
jagadish kumar wrote:
i think it would be good to the world if every government strightly follow some rules to avoid these kind of activists .

IT WOULD BE GOOD IF WE BRING A LAW ON PERSONS WHO ENCOURAGE THESE KIND OF THINGS ????


AM DOUBTFULL ????
" IS IT A POLITICAL WAR " ???


BETWEEN V.H.P & OTHER MUSLIM ACTIVISTS

i stongly suggest that you learn the use of english grammar, or at least try to.
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Reply Wed 8 Mar, 2006 07:00 am
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brahmin
 
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Reply Thu 9 Mar, 2006 03:09 am
http://ia.rediff.com/news/2006/mar/08up14.htm?q=tp&file=.htm

and whts bm?
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brahmin
 
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Reply Fri 10 Mar, 2006 09:33 am
Homegrown terrorism looms over India
Pioneer.com
Navin Upadhyay/New Delhi
For long, Jammu and Kashmir has been the hotbed of terrorist violence in India. Even the daylight attack on Indian Parliament in 2001 was carried out by a fidayeen group that had sneaked into the country from across the border.

The terrorist violence of the past had a clear message: The bloodletting would go on till the liberation of Kashmir.

In the past two years of UPA Government's rule, the pattern of terrorist strikes has changed dramatically. The new choice of targets and locations are indications of a much more heinous design to destabilise the entire nation, and create a situation where India is pushed on the brink of a communal frenzy. What is equally disturbing is the fact that in most recent cases, the strikes were carried out by homegrown mercenaries, financed and trained by Pakistan-based terror outfits.

In dealing with terror factories operating in POK, the country has for long raised its hands in despair, hoping that someday General Pervez Musharraf will undergo a metamorphosis and work for dismantling terrorist training camps. While Mr Musharraf has so far done precious little to address India's concern, New Delhi has lowered its guard by opening one after another rail and road links, ignoring the warning from Intelligence and security agencies.

Now, the terrorists do not need to risk their lives in crossing the heavily guarded border. They can simply board a bus or train and arrive in India to a read carpet welcome. The opening of rail and road links have followed sudden spurt in seizure of explosives in different parts of the country. The coincidence could be overlooked only at the risk of inviting peril of the type the country witnessed in Bangalore, Hyderabad, Ayodhya, and now in Varanasi.

With passage to India becoming easy, the terrorists have changed their tactics too. Instead of going for fidayeen attacks, they have now begun to train and hire local criminals and fundamentalist elements to carry out their tasks. Unabated illegal migration from Bangladesh, sprouting Madarsas on sensitive border points, growing ISI network and an indifferent attitude of several State Governments and the Centre have contributed to the creation of a situation where India finds itself seized from within.

The investigation in Delhi serial blasts and preliminary reports from Varanasi indicate that in both cases Pakistan-based terrorists had used homegrown elements to execute their plans. The involvement of local elements was also indicated in Bangalore and Hyderabad. There were telltale sighs all over that members of banned outfits like SIMI were working in close co-ordination with the Pakistan-based terror groups. But the Government conveniently refused to read the writing on the wall. After Delhi blast, when involvement of locals was firmly established and their links with SIMI proven, the need of the hour was to launch a nation-wide crackdown on such outfits. But, instead of parroting the "nation's resolve' to combat terror, the Government preferred to carry on a brazen minority appeasement politics that further communalised politics and society.

From day one in office, the UPA Government had sent an unambiguous message that tackling terror threat was not its priority. The scrapping of POTA and its replacement by the anaemic Prevention of Unlawful Activities Act, showed that the Government would make any compromise to keep its so-called "secular" allies in good humour.

The demand to scrap POTA was uppermost on the agenda of those who thrive on brazen minorityism. It is not that only people from the minority community were booked under POTA. But somehow, a section of India's political class convinced the minority community that crackdown on anti-national elements was targeted at them, per se. This dangerous impression helped in creating a sense of alienation among the Muslims, who are now being manipulated for political ends by the 'thekedars" (custodians) of secularism .
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brahmin
 
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Reply Fri 10 Mar, 2006 09:34 am
i wish the BJP would come back to power soon and undo all the minotory apeasement crap and terroist grooming that the barmaid led congress is indulging in.
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brahmin
 
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Reply Fri 10 Mar, 2006 09:36 am
New face of political Islam
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Balbir K Punj
Last Friday, violence erupted in Aminabad and Qaiserbag, two prominent marketplaces in Lucknow, when an un-notified anti-Bush rally by local Muslims took a communal turn. Four lives were lost in the violence apart from injuries to another 10. The rally was un-notified but not unscheduled since, according to eye witnesses, preparations on a large scale were being made since morning. The violence could have been resisted but for the pronounced laxity of the police and the administration. The police should have anticipated the preparations that were afoot in full public view in Aminabad.

Violence erupted when Muslim protesters, after Friday prayers, marched through the streets forcing closure of shops on Latouche Road, Aminabad, Kaiserbagh, Nazirabad, Maulviganj and Hazratganj. They damaged shops and vehicles by pelting stones and set ablaze over two dozen two-wheelers. Bank of Baroda's Aminabad branch and a post office were torched by the rioters who also damaged two cinema halls. The Hindu shopkeepers, who have little to do with Islamic jihad against the US, protested against the bullying Muslim gangsters.

This led to pitched battle between the two communities. The Muslim gangsters were even carrying firearms and shot at three persons who later succumbed to their injuries. One of the victims was 12-year-old Shanu, son of one Rajendra Kumar. The police reacted strongly and effectively but only after rioters had inflicted heavy damage.

The events in Lucknow are latest from adherents of 'religion of peace and mercy'. This is an eerie reminder of grisly Kanpur riots in 1931. BR Ambedkar describes it in Pakistan or the Partition of India: "With three weeks of the 'pact' occurred the savage communal riots at Cawnpore, which significantly enough began with the attempts of Congress adherents to force Mahomedan shopkeepers to observe hartal in memory of Bhagat Singh who had been executed on March 23. On March 24 began the plunder of Hindu shops. On March 25 there was a blaze. Shops and temples were set on fire and burnt to cinders.

Disorder, arson, loot, murder, spread like wild fire. Five hundred families abandoned their houses and took shelter in villages. Ramchandra was one of the worst sufferers. All members of his family, including his wife, and aged parents were killed and their bodies thrown into gutters. In the same slaughter Ganesh Shankar Vidhyarthi lost his life (Babasaheb Ambedkar Writings and Speeches, Vol 8, p 177).

Seventy five years later we observe a contrasting coincidence! In Kanpur it were Congressmen who were 'forcing' Muslim shopkeepers to close their shops. One should not misconstrue 'forcing' as compelling them on gun point because adherents of Gandhi were incapable of raising even a pen-knife. There was thus no vandalism. Whatever it be, the occasion was undoubtedly a solemn one for the whole nation - execution of Bhagat Singh and his two companions.

Bhagat Singh is a personality who is lionised by both the saffron and the leftist camps at the same time. Yet Muslim shopkeepers proved that Bhagat Singh meant nothing to them. It says a lot about their view on the freedom movement of India. Interestingly, Muslims not only refused to observe hartal but savaged the Hindu community. 300 lives were lost as per official estimate, in the riots that followed. It is no surprise that those who disowned Bhagat Singh also, subsequently disowned India later.

In Lucknow the reverse happened 75 years later. A Muslim mob, ready with arms and indulging in vandalism, tried to force Hindus to close their shops. The occasion had no connection with nationalism or national interest. They wanted Hindus to side with them to protest against US President George Bush's actions in Afghanistan and Iraq. However, Mr Bush's actions in these two countries did not have a bearing on India. Therefore, the Hindus feel no animosity towards President Bush.

The only section of 'secularists' who were seen making common cause with Muslims were Communists. But there was nothing 'national' about their protests. It again centred on Afghanistan, Iraq and Iran. Their leaders were seen sharing dais with leaders of Jamat-e-Ulema-e-Hind at Delhi's Ramlila Maidan recently, spewing venom against the US. In Hyderabad, the only other city on Mr Bush's itinerary, it were the Leftist and Muslim groups who were protesting against him. They seemed least concerned about India benefitting from the nuclear, agricultural, commercial deals with the US. They were more bothered about what

Mr Bush did in Afghanistan and Iraq. Mr Bush is definitely no holy cow, but neither was Khrushchev or Zhou En Lai for whom Nehru had rolled out the red carpet. Why do Communists conspicuously shy away from even pronouncing on Tibet? Did they find Muslims by their side on the issue of Vietnam? However, India did not seek the track record of the USSR in Baltic countries like Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia that Russians had forcibly occupied in 1940. Our contact with Russia filled India with KGB agents about which The Mitrokhin Archives is quite explicit.

A fortnight before the anti-Bush riots, Lucknow had witnessed another Muslim mobilisation against cartoons of Prophet Mohammed published in Danish newspaper Jyellands-Posten. The BJP office had been attacked by a Muslim mob, which hurled abuses at Hindu deities as well. The concern of Hindus is quite legitimate. Why should they face Muslim ire for no fault of theirs? And how long can this be tolerated in a Hindu-majority country with the principle of secularism enshrined in its Constitution?

The sword of Islam is now tearing apart the mask of secularism. The burgeoning Muslim population and its increasing religious assertiveness will ensure that the days of living in the comfortable shadow of secularist ideology are numbered.

The tradition of 'secular' Congress caving in to communal demands of Muslim League had begun in Lucknow. At the time of signing 'the Lucknow Pact in 1916 the Congress had officially agreed to communal representation in legislative bodies to ensure peace and unity. In three years the Congress along with the Ali brothers was fighting for the jihadi cause of restoring the Caliphate.

Failure to restore Caliphate led the Muslims of India to vent their anger on Hindus in a manner never seen before. The secular formations that are today lending crutches to communal demands of Muslims like quota in armed forces, Government jobs and educational institutions must be forewarned about its after-effects. Such measures will most likely backfire.

Although Ms Sonia Gandhi might claim that Muslims are Congress's natural allies (only those who have not read history will believe it), Congressmen this time were on the wrong side of 'secular' divide. By rolling out the red carpet to Mr Bush, the Congress has acted in India's interest. It was necessary and the time for it had come. The generation next of the Congress will, for sure, not be able to escape the impact of Islamic explosions, a pernicious legacy of the party's appeasement policies over the last two generations.

Hence it is better that they are prepared for it, and don't repeat the blunders of the past. Mr Bush, at Purana Qila, did some hard talk which lacked the polish of 'secularism'. His tribute to the Hindu majority of India was no faux pas. It was confirmed by his rebuff to President Musharraf in Islamabad when he said there was a big difference between history of India and the history of Pakistan. Hence Pakistan, howsoever an important ally, cannot be equated with India. The history he was referring to was not merely post-1947 but started from 7th century AD.

(The writer, a Rajya Sabha MP, can be contacted at [email protected])
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