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integration with substitution q

 
 
mans
 
Reply Sat 18 Feb, 2006 11:19 pm
Find S x(1-x^2)^4 dx using the subsitution u=1-x^2

S = integration symbol thing.


this is part of a maths assignment for integration cos we've finished the
topic but we havent learnt anything about subsitution. I'm completely
lost...where do i start? cos if you use the subsitution then you have an x
and a u in the same thing, how do you integrate with 2 pronumerals? i read
some stuff on the internet but it was really confusing.

Thanks for your
help!
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mans
 
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Reply Sun 19 Feb, 2006 12:15 am
oh, sheesh, something has gone terribly wrong
i actually did not write that post
what on earth....
i am gonna kill my sister - she is the only possible suspect
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al1000
 
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Reply Sun 19 Feb, 2006 01:27 am
if your sister did write that post, theres no reason to tell the whole forum - it's a reasonable question. It's not like she's pretending you're insane or ruining your (non existent) reputation.

Here's an example of integration with substitution I found: http://www.sosmath.com/calculus/integration/substitution/substitution.html

I don't know to do your question - hopefully someone else can help you!
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mans
 
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Reply Sun 19 Feb, 2006 11:51 pm
thanks - i'll tell her
well, i always say stuff like that anyhow. and i didn't say it because i'm worried about my reputation - nothing like that. i just wrote it because...i did. Smile
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engineer
 
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Reply Mon 20 Feb, 2006 06:36 am
Did that link help you understand the problem? If not, post back and we'll get you through it.
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mans
 
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Reply Tue 21 Feb, 2006 01:09 am
according to my sister, she said that she didn't understand because it included pro-numerals Sad
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abergirl
 
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Reply Tue 21 Feb, 2006 07:56 am
If u substitute in and change dx to du correctly the x's should cancel out leaving you with and integral just in terms of u.
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engineer
 
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Reply Tue 21 Feb, 2006 08:11 am
If u = (1 - x^2) then du = -2x dx or dx = -du/2x.

You have to substitute in for both (1-x^2) and dx. The equation becomes (x)(u^4)(-du/2x) and the x's cancel out, leaving an equation only in terms of u. Now you can integrate it.
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mans
 
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Reply Tue 21 Feb, 2006 10:42 pm
thankyou Very Happy
will tell her (hopefully she'll understand now Smile )
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