2
   

Affirmative Action

 
 
sweetcomplication
 
  1  
Reply Tue 15 Jul, 2003 12:46 pm
McGentrix wrote:
Yes I can see your point, but if donating a wing to the library or a new computer center or dormatory will no longer guarantee placement of your kid, then I would hate to see those things trail off as that will raise tuitions and taxes to pay for those things.

I'm not saying it's right, but that's the way it is. I went to a state school because I couldn't afford a more expensive school. I didn't see a glaring absence of colored people, and this is in an area that has a less than average number of minorities to begin with.


1. That is precisely why we need to support our schools; hmmmm, I know: how about from waste, fraud and abuse, to coin a phrase; and

2. "colored people": how DEEP in the Adirondacks are you; helped out old Eric Rudolph perhaps? Oy vey! Rolling Eyes
0 Replies
 
snood
 
  1  
Reply Tue 15 Jul, 2003 12:49 pm
McGentrix wrote:
snood wrote:
What color were the "colored" people?


Most were blue, but we had a few paisleys mixed in.


Hey McG, old partner - can I make a friendly observation?

People who aren't even rabid, militant PC police consider people who still refer to certain minorities as "colored" as either mindfully ill-mannered or simply ignorant .
0 Replies
 
McGentrix
 
  1  
Reply Tue 15 Jul, 2003 12:57 pm
OMFG, I wrote "colored people" instead of "people of color" which is what I meant to type. I apologize. Get off my ass now.
0 Replies
 
Scrat
 
  1  
Reply Tue 15 Jul, 2003 01:01 pm
sweetcomplication wrote:
legacy student: one who is helped into not just college but also jobs etc. by virtue of either one or both of their parents (ie "legacy"). IMHO, that is a bad thing because, up until now at least, a good example would be Dubya who was born on 3rd base and still thinks he hit a triple!

So legacy students are a bad thing because you think Dubya was one? Are you arguing that no black parent would be afforded the same advantage for his or her progeny? If that's true, then I would agree it is a bad thing.
0 Replies
 
snood
 
  1  
Reply Tue 15 Jul, 2003 01:05 pm
McGentrix wrote:
OMFG, I wrote "colored people" instead of "people of color" which is what I meant to type. I apologize. Get off my ass now.


Yeah I'll get off your ass, soon as you pull your head out of it - which is where it has to be, if you really think anyone believes your bullcrap. Someone as intelligent as you, and who loves the sight of his own words on a page as much as you, did not "accidentally" write "colored" for "people of color". And the fact that you want to pawn that off on us as true makes you not only suspect as a bigot, but also apparently too cowardly to just admit that that's just the way you like to talk.
0 Replies
 
Scrat
 
  1  
Reply Tue 15 Jul, 2003 01:07 pm
And can we please get over the "colored people" thing? There was a time when that was the PC term, and I frankly think that the term gets changed every couple of years just so that we can point fingers at the people who aren't keeping up.

Reminds me of a time when I get taken to task by a friend for referring to her and others as "ladies". "Don't you mean women?" she asked. I asked her if her experience of me led her to believe that I was a bigot regarding gender differences. "No." I then asked her what purpose was served by being offended at my use of the term "lady", of which the worst you can say is that it implies an above average standard of conduct. She had no response.

Sometimes I suspect that the main reason we can't get past racial issues in this country is because some people simply won't let us.
0 Replies
 
sweetcomplication
 
  1  
Reply Tue 15 Jul, 2003 01:12 pm
Scrat wrote:
So legacy students are a bad thing because you think Dubya was one? Are you arguing that no black parent would be afforded the same advantage for his or her progeny? If that's true, then I would agree it is a bad thing.


No, as I wrote, that is an example, ok? ... a bit of levity ... Rolling Eyes

My point was that, of course, while a Black person probably would do the same thing for his or her children, but that just hasn't happened yet. Why can't you support AA until that goal, at least, has been realized? Seriously, WHY?
0 Replies
 
sweetcomplication
 
  1  
Reply Tue 15 Jul, 2003 01:14 pm
Scrat wrote:
And can we please get over the "colored people" thing? There was a time when that was the PC term, and I frankly think that the term gets changed every couple of years just so that we can point fingers at the people who aren't keeping up.

Reminds me of a time when I get taken to task by a friend for referring to her and others as "ladies". "Don't you mean women?" she asked. I asked her if her experience of me led her to believe that I was a bigot regarding gender differences. "No." I then asked her what purpose was served by being offended at my use of the term "lady", of which the worst you can say is that it implies an above average standard of conduct. She had no response.

Sometimes I suspect that the main reason we can't get past racial issues in this country is because some people simply won't let us.


1. CRAP

2. DIVERSION

3. Yes, people such as yourself
0 Replies
 
McGentrix
 
  1  
Reply Tue 15 Jul, 2003 01:15 pm
snood wrote:
McGentrix wrote:
OMFG, I wrote "colored people" instead of "people of color" which is what I meant to type. I apologize. Get off my ass now.


Yeah I'll get off your ass, soon as you pull your head out of it - which is where it has to be, if you really think anyone believes your bullcrap. Someone as intelligent as you, and who loves the sight of his own words on a page as much as you, did not "accidentally" write "colored" for "people of color". And the fact that you want to pawn that off on us as true makes you not only suspect as a bigot, but also apparently too cowardly to just admit that that's just the way you like to talk.


wow. you have phrased this in such a way that there is no way I can respond.

You think I am intelligent? Shocked

Believe what you will. If had meant it as an insult I would have used a more vulgar vocabulary.
0 Replies
 
Scrat
 
  1  
Reply Tue 15 Jul, 2003 01:16 pm
sweet - So nice of you to turn to insults. Care to return to the topic? Or have you run out of thoughts on it?
0 Replies
 
snood
 
  1  
Reply Tue 15 Jul, 2003 01:16 pm
If anyone here thinks the term "colored people" is interchangeable with any other term that shows up "every couple of years", I suggest that individual start approaching blacks and using that term frequently. After a short while, I'm quite sure some of his confusion would clear up.
0 Replies
 
sweetcomplication
 
  1  
Reply Tue 15 Jul, 2003 01:18 pm
:wink: Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing :wink:
0 Replies
 
McGentrix
 
  1  
Reply Tue 15 Jul, 2003 01:20 pm
How about "pigmentally gifted"?
0 Replies
 
snood
 
  1  
Reply Tue 15 Jul, 2003 01:22 pm
McGentrix wrote:
How about "pigmentally gifted"?



then again - some folk thrive on confusion
0 Replies
 
Sofia
 
  1  
Reply Tue 15 Jul, 2003 01:25 pm
'pigmentally gifted'

A distinct improvement.
When you said colored, I was hoping you meant 'colors other than white'.

I thought 'colored' had been dispatched, because it doesn't adequately describe one race. Actually, we're all colored. Not PC/unPC, just accuracy.

No judgement from this vector.
0 Replies
 
sweetcomplication
 
  1  
Reply Tue 15 Jul, 2003 01:25 pm
Scrat wrote:
sweet - So nice of you to turn to insults. Care to return to the topic? Or have you run out of thoughts on it?


Scrat, give me a break:

My response of "crap" meant that there's no PC about this issue - it has to do with respect; no member of any group changes terms every couple of years to point fingers!

My response to the whole paragraph on women is that I believe it to be a diversion because we were consistently discussing people of color.

My response to "the main reason we can't get past racial issues in this country is because some people simply won't let us" was in fact an insult, I admit, but I just get so tired of this sort of minimalizing the real problem. Therefore, I called it as I saw it, albeit in a nasty way. I believe we cannot 'get pass' these issues until we have remedied these issues.

Please accept my apology for not fleshing out my answers in my earlier post.
0 Replies
 
Scrat
 
  1  
Reply Tue 15 Jul, 2003 01:28 pm
snood wrote:
If anyone here thinks the term "colored people" is interchangeable with any other term that shows up "every couple of years", I suggest that individual start approaching blacks and using that term frequently. After a short while, I'm quite sure some of his confusion would clear up.

I am not suggesting that some people aren't offended by it, I am suggesting that their offense does not automatically mean one was intended, and--by extension--that their offense may be unreasonable.
0 Replies
 
McGentrix
 
  1  
Reply Tue 15 Jul, 2003 01:28 pm
The problem is that you making quite a few assumptions about me over one line that I mis-typed and have now made this big racial deal over it.

I could go into the number of black friends I have or that I have black ancestors or how I feel about racism, but that wouldn't make a difference any more. You have a pre-conceived notion about me based only on what you see typed here. Most of it based on my political leanings and I feel that no matter what I would say about the issue, you will either write off what I say as bullshit or not believe me. So, it doesn't matter to me what you call me.

Razz
0 Replies
 
snood
 
  1  
Reply Tue 15 Jul, 2003 01:29 pm
Okay, I'll bite - maybe I'm leading a sheltered life, or something.

Does anyone know of anyone who uses the term "colored", if the person using that term is not from someplace where they don't have to deal with minorities, or from the generation when that term was used, or from another country (i.e South Africa), or just outright stupid and/or bigotted?
0 Replies
 
sweetcomplication
 
  1  
Reply Tue 15 Jul, 2003 01:31 pm
Snood, respectfully, I would add ignorant to outright stupid or bigoted...
0 Replies
 
 

Related Topics

Why Race? - Discussion by snood
Im white . - Discussion by shewolfnm
what are you? - Discussion by dyslexia
Be Black - Question by Victor Murphy
Fear of a Black President - Discussion by snood
Ten questions about race - Discussion by nimh
 
  1. Forums
  2. » Affirmative Action
  3. » Page 20
Copyright © 2024 MadLab, LLC :: Terms of Service :: Privacy Policy :: Page generated in 0.07 seconds on 11/25/2024 at 05:38:29