Bush Administration Demands Search Data: Google Says No

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... and Yahoo and MSN said 'yes'.

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Court Documents & Summary Of United States Versus Google Over Search Data

Earlier we reported in Bush Administration Demands Search Data; Google Says No, Yahoo & MSN Said Yes at the US Government seeks to force Google to hand over search data. That story explains more about the situation, and there have been a number of postscripts from when it was first written. Along with that, we've been able to obtain copies of the three court documents filed in the case. Below you'll find links to each document, along with a summary of what's in each of them.

Alberto Gonzalez, as Attorney General of the United States vs. Google
Notice of Motion to Compel Compliance (
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Declaration Of Joel McElvain
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Declaration Of Philip B Stark (
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Goog post, Walter, thank you . . .

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Money is all that is needed.

Google sells this info to everyone else.

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In the first link, the AG states:

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Google also contends that the material sought in this request is redundant, given the fact that the Government has issued similar subpoenas to other search engine operators. . . . This ofjection misunderstands the nature of the Government's request. The production of a set of queries form Google's database, in combination with similar productions from other search engine operators, will assist the Government in devoloping a sample of the overall universe of search engine queries, while accounting for the potential of any variations of the types of queries that entered into different search engines.

(If this text is in error, it is because i was obliged to retype it by reading the page in the pdf format, being unable to cut and paste.)

Given that the Government had already several times stipulated a narrower range of inquiry based upon Google objections to the breadth of the request, if find it rather silly to now contend that, first, this information is crucial to constructing the Government's argument to the Supremes--were that so, they would not have been in a position to repeatedly stipulate a narrower sample; and second, that there is any basis for assuming that there would any significant variation in they types of searches requested from one search engine to another--the Government adduces no evidence that this may be the case.

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cjhsa wrote:

Money is all that is needed.

Google sells this info to everyone else.

Nonsense--read the pages Walter has linked--the Government are demanding millions of specific search strings. Neither Google nor anyone else sells information containing such specificity.

It helps if you read the links before you comment.

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Google can sell anything ever searched on through its websites. Trust me.

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Your point is specious. The Government are requesting the specific langauage of millions of search strings as they were entered. Google sells demographic summaries of the nature of searches, not the specific language of search strings.

In this matter, given the evidence that you didn't bother to read the linked pages, i have no intention of trusting you.

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cjhsa wrote:

Google can sell anything ever searched on through its websites. Trust me.

Any idea, why this is all about then?

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Bush Administration
What is it all about? Bushie paranoia, that's what.

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If I were the Public Relations/Advertising person for Google, I would dress the president of the company up in an orange jumpsuit with handcuffs around his wrists, and have him come out of corporate headquarters, look into the camera three feet away and say:
HELL, NO

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Another step in Bush's march to fascism.

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So much of privacy and civil liberty issues have been neglected with this administration's war on terror - isn't anyone else worried that someday this will totally backfire on us??!

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It's just another of Bush's fishing expeditions of which there are already far too many.

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Not fascism - Imperial Majesty.

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kermit wrote:

isn't anyone else worried that someday this will totally backfire on us??!

Welcome to A2K, kermit. Many, many years ago, when I was in high school, I was in a government class. The teacher had been there forever and, in the course of a discussion about something, she opined that "Well. if you are not guilty of anything, what difference does it make if the police...:"
That comment on that day turned me into, I guess we could say, a liberal. (I became even more of a liberal with Vietnam and the civil rights movement). But I still remember raising my hand on that day and saying to the teacher: You are wrong.
I was reminded of this a couple of days ago when I heard a news story on local radio that included a quote from an official suggesting that "well, if you have done nothing wrong you shouldn't have a problem with the government..."

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realjohnboy
The problem is who determines the criteria of right and wrong?

The same could be said of Germany during the Nazi period.

You had nothing to worry about if you have done nothing wrong.
The problem was, it was wrong to be a Jew, It was wrong to disagree with the government policy, it was wrong to be a homosexual, it was wrong to have a mental problem and on and on.

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Bookmark

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Thanks for posting that, Walter. Very interesting & very worrying.

bm

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One major difference between what you are talking about and comparing history to, is that the U.S. is an armed society. Can we defend ourselves against the government? No, but we don't necessarily go willingly either.

I don't see this or any other administration going after law abiding citizens.

Bin Laden says he has active cells in our country. I'd hope somebody is profiling. I am.

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The war on masturbation won't be easy. It will be long and hard.

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